Ronald Koeman discussion

[Igrok]

Today Ron owned the bedwetters...

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Today Oumar owned the bedwetters...

 

[ijjysmith]

Actually it's more us wanting to be like City/Chelsea/UTD/Spurs, winning and playing attractive football, the top 4/5 prove it's possible, but you seem to think it's one or the other with us ?

I didn't realise it was a bad thing to actually have standards

It’s a bad thing to be that unrealistic.

I’m literally only talking about today.

If we’d have lost today I’d have been as livid as most seem to be in here. Make no mistake.

But we didn’t. And to me that’s all that matters.

Look, in a perfect world we’d be going out there battering everyone like City seem to be doing. But it’s not a perfect world. It never is for Everton it seems so I take every single Everton win as what it is. A win.

 

[granter79]

So he used players to change a game surely thats good management and what subs are hoped to do

Can we have a manager like this please

We could have been ahead by half time if he got it right. Too many times this has happened.
Pickford had not have saved from defoe we could have lost the game.

 

[jceverton]

Because if we win it means we’ve scored goals.

I like Everton scoring.

How can Football not be about winning?
It’s this sort of attitude that makes Everton too nice.

It’s such a Martinez thing to be like yeah we lost 7-5 but at least it was entertaining.

Of course it's about winning and if you don't the right approach to team selection and tactics then you won't win consistently. Not hard to understand that this won't happen if you keep picking the wrong team and tactics. Demanding higher standards of management means you will win more regularly - you're the one with the attitude that makes everything too nice.

 

[ijjysmith]

It's great we won but i want us to win consistently and challenge the top 4. You can't do that if the manager consistently picks the wrong team and plays the wrong tactics. The point is that despite overwhelming evidence the joker keeps picking the wrong team and playing the wrong tactics.

As mentioned mate if we’d have lost today I’d have been all over him.

But we won and I just want to enjoy it.

 

[ijjysmith]

Of course it's about winning and if you don't the right approach to team selection and tactics then you won't win consistently. Not hard to understand that this won't happen if you keep picking the wrong team and tactics. Demanding higher standards of management means you will win more regularly - you're the one with the attitude that makes everything too nice.

I’m too nice because I’m happy we won?!

 

[blulouie]

Actually it's more us wanting to be like City/Chelsea/UTD/Spurs, winning and playing attractive football, the top 4/5 prove it's possible, but you seem to think it's one or the other with us ?

I didn't realise it was a bad thing to actually have standards

West Ham have standards ....yanno the West Ham Way .....must be a good thing to have

 

[Axlswhk]

It’s a bad thing to be that unrealistic.

I’m literally only talking about today.

If we’d have lost today I’d have been as livid as most seem to be in here. Make no mistake.

But we didn’t. And to me that’s all that matters.

Look, in a perfect world we’d be going out there battering everyone like City seem to be doing. But it’s not a perfect world. It never is for Everton it seems so I take every single Everton win as what it is. A win.

we're not asking for perfection here. We're questioning his team selection and tactics while enjoying the win. What's wrong with that?

 

[ilikecheese]

I am not Koeman's biggest fan by any stretch, but I remember a time when we'd give a manager their due for making the subs that changed the game.

Not sure why folks are dwelling on the team selection. He saw it wasn't working and fixed it. Game won.

 

[ilikecheese]

maybe this will be the turning point for him,very lucky today

Why was he lucky?

 

[Joey66]

Take a day off mate

I'd take you a day off !

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Lucky manager tonight is Koamen could have been very different reality for him, anyway I’m pleased and hope the players now begin to work as unit. Still I think there is something amiss with him and some of his staff, when Duncan was celebrating our goals not once did he seem to acknowledge Koamen instead turning to the staff and the bench, maybe i missed something but I dont like distance in a team game.

 

[Toast]

Today Ron owned the bedwetters...

Just to clarify, is it 'bedwetting' to want to watch decent football at home ?
Should Everton play two defensive midfielders at home to Bournemouth ? Even when a goal down ?
Is it bedwetting to want us to play Kenny at right back, as he's one of the brightest young prospects in the league and with Seamus out he could be learning loads ?
Is it bedwetting that out of total desperation our manager is forced to play a striker who he wanted out of the club and treated him awfully ?

Or is it just cool to call Evertonians 'bed wetters ' ??

 

[Joey66]

I’m also laughing at anyone who thought he’d have been sacked today if we’d lost.

Who said that?
The pressure may have increased that's all!
But a win is a win !