Ronald Koeman discussion

[riddick]

I think a lot of the angst from today is a bunch of different things that compounded themselves. It was "you need to wait until he has HIS team". This is HIS team now and we're terrible. "They need to get physically fit". He's been here over a year, how are they NOT fit? "He doesn't have the squad for HIS tactics". A)this is HIS team and B) nobody has ANY idea what HIS tactics even are. We don't press, we are still pretty much immobile off the ball, we don't really do anything better than another manager in the PL era has done. We're OK at the back but that is in spite of our tactics which have 2 limited CB's making our line a lot deeper than we should have and invite pressure.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Have we finally lost a game?

Don't think it was the loss that was the problem mate, it was the manner of the defeat, virtually a copy of when we played them last season with the 5-0 hammering, waved the white flag from the off.

 

[ijjysmith]

Correct.

It's great how stats can be manipulated so easily when I ignore context.

Indeed. I'm happily ignoring the fact that Burnley won at Stamford Bridge.

 

[crockyblue79]

3 games, 6 days, all away including City and Champions Chelsea, let's get real eh lads.......

poor excuse that,we haven't won an away game against premier opposition since January-and that was with the last kick at Palace.We aren't even putting in good performances away from home just meek defensive like surrenders as soon as the home side take the lead.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Indeed. I'm happily ignoring the fact that Burnley won at Stamford Bridge.

It's not that we lost today. Was always likely.

But it's the fact we were atrocious in every area in the first half and playing an extremely daft and negative formation. That's why people are annoyed.

 

[cromofo]

Barkley injured
Klaassen injured
Coleman injured
Bolasie injured
McCarthy injured
Schneiderlin suspended
Sandro not fit
Siggy not fit.

3 big games in 6 days.

I think we should give Koeman a break and show some faith. Look ahead to the games vs Spurs and United, get a result there and then go on a run.

International break will do us good.

 

[peteblue]

0 wins.

1 loss.....

 

[riddick]

Barkley injured
Klaassen injured
Coleman injured
Bolasie injured
McCarthy injured
Schneiderlin suspended
Sandro not fit

3 big games in 6 days.

I think we should give Koeman a break and show some faith. Look ahead to the games vs Spurs and United, get a result there and then go on a run.

International break will do us good.

0 away wins since January.

 

[Berenger]

The team barely put 3 passes together in the 2nd half and that's the fault of the players.

Agree to some extent but the amount of times it came out to Baines or Holgate and they had nothing in front, inside, or down the wing was infuriating. First half as well. That's about game plan mainly.

That said, Koeman changed it well in the second half and DCL and Lennon made a difference.

 

[ijjysmith]

It's not that we lost today. Was always likely.

But it's the fact we were atrocious in every area in the first half and playing an extremely daft and negative formation. That's why people are annoyed.

We have 1 more point than I ever expected us to have after our first 5 games, let alone 3 so I'm just in a happy place I think.

 

[Gladystweet]

Barkley injured
Klaassen injured
Coleman injured
Bolasie injured
McCarthy injured
Schneiderlin suspended
Sandro not fit
Siggy not fit.

3 big games in 6 days.

I think we should give Koeman a break and show some faith. Look ahead to the games vs Spurs and United, get a result there and then go on a run.

International break will do us good.

I'm really really not looking forward to the Spurs, Utd games.

 

[cromofo]

I'm really really not looking forward to the Spurs, Utd games.

No one really is.

But ok that's football.

 

[ToffeeTim]

We have 1 more point than I ever expected us to have after our first 5 games, let alone 3 so I'm just in a happy place I think.

Give me 3 from our next 2. I'd have snapped your hand off for 7 from 5 and EL group stage.

 

[Gladystweet]

No one really is.

But ok that's football.

I bet Spurs and Utd are...

 

[streeky]

Barkley injured
Klaassen injured
Coleman injured
Bolasie injured
McCarthy injured
Schneiderlin suspended
Sandro not fit
Siggy not fit.

3 big games in 6 days.

I think we should give Koeman a break and show some faith. Look ahead to the games vs Spurs and United, get a result there and then go on a run.

International break will do us good.

With the exception of seamus would any or all of those players changed the way he set up today. i doubt it, same result give or take.