Ross Barkley

[kenada_blue]

Schneiderlin is our best player

Ross is up there though

He's played abar 5 games and was injured a lot in 4 months.

 

[blue62]

Martinez was ultimately shown to be badly badly flawed after initially looking like the second coming,hopefully Koeman is more balanced, a solid manager who builds a successful team for his successor to take on another level, Walsh should hopefully ensure this

My main issue with Martinez was his constant 'mugging off' in interviews, it was excruciating to listen to on occasions as his comments became more and more absurd. I drew the conclusion that he was either off his tree or simply couldn't handle the pressure of the job, he had to go for his sake and ours.

 

[kenada_blue]

Schneiderlin, Lukaklu, Gana, Baines, Coleman, Mirallas and even Davies are better than him

 

[macdog]

I'd rather Niasse than Barkley after this saga.

 

[Pabbers]

He's been told he can leave, and yet no one has even submitted a bid for him. No one outside of Spurs were even rumored to be interested. Once again, if he was a great player who would walk into any first 11 in the league as you stated, there would be a queue for him. Why isn't there any interest?

So you ignore the United, city, arsenal and even the odd chealse link ???!!

Its us pricing players out of the market again.... genuine world class players are available for 2 thirds of what we ask for ours!!!

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He's played abar 5 games and was injured a lot in 4 months.

The difference when he played and when he didn't was staggering

By far our best pound for pound player IMO

That being said, Ross is comfortably in the running as well

 

[davek]

Martinez was ultimately shown to be badly badly flawed after initially looking like the second coming,hopefully Koeman is more balanced, a solid manager who builds a successful team for his successor to take on another level, Walsh should hopefully ensure this

He was shown to be badly flawed because he continued to try and play champagne football with a bottle of brown ale.

The players he had weren't up to handling the constant demand for football that asked them to take responsibility for the ball and to improve themselves. He hit the buffers when they git the buffers (about 18 months into his three year tenure). He should have demanded a lot more cash than he spent at the end of that first season and bought way more than the Lukaku signing. Lukaku should - with Ross Barkley - have been the core of the team he needed to build. He kept faith with mediocre players though.

At least after he'd been here he'd taught them how to receive a pass, retain it, and pass a ball - something the dullard Moyes failed to drill into them.

Now here we are selling the likes of Barkley, Deulofeu and Lukaku. The complete wrong things to do if we want to crack on under this current or future manager.

 

[Goat]

He was shown to be badly flawed because he continued to try and play champagne football with a bottle of brown ale.

The players he had weren't up to handling the constant demand for football that asked them to take responsibility for the ball and to improve themselves. He hit the buffers when they git the buffers (about 18 months into his three year tenure). He should have demanded a lot more cash than he spent at the end of that first season and bought way more than the Lukaku signing. Lukaku should - with Ross Barkley - have been the core of the team he needed to build. He kept faith with mediocre players though.

At least after he'd been here he'd taught them how to receive a pass, retain it, and pass a ball - something the dullard Moyes failed to drill into them.

Now here we are selling the likes of Barkley, Deulofeu and Lukaku. The complete wrong things to do if we want to crack on under this current or future manager.

lollollol

 

[davek]

The difference when he played and when he didn't was staggering

By far our best pound for pound player IMO

That being said, Ross is comfortably in the running as well

As @kenada_blue rightly stated: he's played a handful of games - too few to really judge - and he looks worryingly like a crock. When he is fit and playing well he is a hard worker, not in the Ross Barkley bracket by a long chalk...as would have been proven in terms of cash fee if he'd left with more than a year on his contract. As it is he'll still probably fetch more than Schneiderlin did.

All the anti-Barkley stuff is plain old anger of the jilted stuff.

 

[f.t.r.s]

He was shown to be badly flawed because he continued to try and play champagne football with a bottle of brown ale.

The players he had weren't up to handling the constant demand for football that asked them to take responsibility for the ball and to improve themselves. He hit the buffers when they git the buffers (about 18 months into his three year tenure). He should have demanded a lot more cash than he spent at the end of that first season and bought way more than the Lukaku signing. Lukaku should - with Ross Barkley - have been the core of the team he needed to build. He kept faith with mediocre players though.

At least after he'd been here he'd taught them how to receive a pass, retain it, and pass a ball - something the dullard Moyes failed to drill into them.

Now here we are selling the likes of Barkley, Deulofeu and Lukaku. The complete wrong things to do if we want to crack on under this current or future manager.

Kept faith with mediocre players? I'd say its more to do with the fact that viewed players like kone, alcaraz and cleverly as Good enough for us in the first place

Del we don't have a choice with due to Bobby accepting the terms barca wanted, rom has always wanted to leave since he got here, and there's no guarantee Ross will leave

 

[davek]

lollollol

Mate, I gave up on you ever being able to understand how footy works years ago.

Have you done the "Goat's tactical review of Everton - season 2017/18' yet?

Cant wait.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He was shown to be badly flawed because he continued to try and play champagne football with a bottle of brown ale.

The players he had weren't up to handling the constant demand for football that asked them to take responsibility for the ball and to improve themselves. He hit the buffers when they git the buffers (about 18 months into his three year tenure). He should have demanded a lot more cash than he spent at the end of that first season and bought way more than the Lukaku signing. Lukaku should - with Ross Barkley - have been the core of the team he needed to build. He kept faith with mediocre players though.

At least after he'd been here he'd taught them how to receive a pass, retain it, and pass a ball - something the dullard Moyes failed to drill into them.

Now here we are selling the likes of Barkley, Deulofeu and Lukaku. The complete wrong things to do if we want to crack on under this current or future manager.

Except for the many times they did that during his tenure, such as in the home 3-1 win against Southampton in his last season where we passed it at will and played some lovely football on route to an impressive win

 

[Goat]

As @kenada_blue rightly stated: he's played a handful of games - too few to really judge - and he looks worryingly like a crock. When he is fit and playing well he is a hard worker, not in the Ross Barkley bracket by a long chalk...as would have been proven in terms of cash fee if he'd left with more than a year on his contract. As it is he'll still probably fetch more than Schneiderlin did.

All the anti-Barkley stuff is plain old anger of the jilted stuff.

lollollollol

You dont have to abuse Morgan to big up Ross David.

 

[msb]

Martinez was utterly hopeless at organising a defence, Moyes was good at it.

No co-incidence with Moyes organisation and Martinez invention, his first season was successful. No surprise that our defensive effort nose-dived after a full season of Martinez and became laughable since. Koeman has struggled to rectify some of the pee poor defending, but it is improving.

Ross was and is a total enigma. Plays wonderfully well at times and dog-poo poor at others. If we are to progress we need consistent high performance from all our players, much like Leicester achieved in their title winning season (levels of performance, not style).

My personal view is that he will stay and sign a revised contract, but mostly because no-one wants him bad enough to pay the sort of money we are asking. Again, in my view, this would be bad for all parties. Time he went and time he went now.

 

[Goat]

Mate, I gave up on you ever being able to understand how footy works years ago.

Have you done the "Goat's tactical review of Everton - season 2017/18' yet?

Cant wait.

Already done it David, thanks for your support.