Ronald Koeman discussion

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He's probably wondering what's just happened. Welcome to Everton mate. 7 games a year they'll absolutely screw you over and there'll be jack all you can do about it. Go and buy Messi Ronald, Klavan would still have him in his pocket come the derby.
 


Koeman said he was proud of that performance

How can you be proud losing 3-1 to your rivals?

We were horrendous today looked so poor in all areas particularly at the back

Come on Koeman you can't honestly say you were proud of that? If you are then just leave pal because you clearly don't care
He's got to say that. I think it's good psychology. How would you feel if you were one of the youngsters who were thrown into the lions den and the person who threw you in then came out and said you were all crap and you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
To be fair to him, lot's of people were saying "don't play Barry" and he didn't

It would have been Barry's fault if he had played. It's always someone or something...but we never turn up in these games. Never. Lesser teams have beaten them though, and that's the frustrating part. There is some kind of mental hurdle that we need to overcome. Whether it is new players with stronger mentalities or whatever, something needs to change. Even against their weakest and worst teams over the past years, we never seem to stamp our authority on the derby. Painful to watch.
 
Said it to another poster earlier but one major hindrance today in hindsight was the fact 4 of our first 11 were young inexperienced kids playing. Lads at the start of their careers essentially and thrown in all together to make a bulk of the team and ultimately meant large chunks of the pitch were covered by lads who don't know the ins and outs of the premier league.

That's Not me knocking them, Davies impressed me still, holgate held his own the best he could. In fact at 12:00 you wouldn't have necessarily argued against them playing apart from perhaps pennington. But that had to factor into the game somewhat today, even if the overall performance was typical of a derby anyway.

Perhaps today was a result of letting go of so many players in January. There is no depth to the squad and lucky for us that hasn't factored in until 1st April. The game was poor and to be honest it's what we have come to expect but perhaps we might have had a better time with mori Coleman schneiderlin on the pitch over the young lads. No way of knowing that now.

I think carragger after the game though hit the proverbial nail on the head. Koeman coming out and saying he was proud of the performance and we did well etc is what is wrong here, the attitudes are wrong. Koeman should be angry about losing to Liverpool again, he wasn't at all or at least not on face value. The meaning of winning against them is gone, the performances are not there because the general attitude is not there. We seem to have accepted defeat and based on Barkley tackles and mori last season, the point of the derby seems to have been lost over the years now as well.

I have to disagree.

Who, from the lot that were let go, would you have deployed ?
 
He's already equalled Martinez's losses to them and he's only been here nine months.

Tbf both Martinez and Koeman have done their best to make the Moyes era look like our golden period for derbies.

I can't believe we play these games worse now than we did then. At least under Moyes we had a chance of sneaking a draw or a win at home.
 

Tbf both Martinez and Koeman have done their best to make the Moyes era look like our golden period for derbies.

I can't believe we play these games worse now than we did then. At least under Moyes we had a chance of sneaking a draw or a win at home.

You do know we lost at home to the last kick of the game?
Nothing will be as worse as last years display at Anfield; nor when Moyes gifted Stevie G a hat trick.
 
You do know we lost at home to the last kick of the game?
Nothing will be as worse as last years display at Anfield; nor when Moyes gifted Stevie G a hat trick.

Probably a bit harsh on Koeman but was just making the point that rather than improve in these games since Moyes left, we've actually got worse.
 

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