Ronald Koeman discussion

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I know. But i don't want Martinez taking credit for the 2nd 11th. That fraud had us 13th. So we've improved a place a month. That'll do for me.

You are among Friends here Ian, only 1 person will be giving Martinez anything that even remotely looks like credit.

The majority are aware of what the last fella was.
 

I like it when Everton win games, hes making Everton win games.

Hes currently on course to be everything I expected him to be, I was hoping for European football this season and a pop at the top 4 next season, im not demanding European football this season, it was always going to be hard coming off the back of 2x11th place finishes, but ok.

I have realistic expectations and hes doing enough to make me happy.
You're easily pleased, tbf.
 
Got to admit Koeman has changed my opinion on him, i think he was helped by Bolasie getting injured, not having to find a place for him has certainly helped the balance of the team.

I was initially worried by the calling out of players during the run of bad results, sometimes that can ruin the dressing room forever but the players have bought in and thats all you can ask for. Sometimes he is a little too honest but least you know where you stand.

He says we are a few players off from really challenging the big teams, so lets take his word for it and get behind him.
 
You're easily pleased, tbf.

I am David.

I consider myself to be a realist, I realise how far we have fallen and I realise how hard and how long the journey back will be.

Its going to take longer than 9 months, 11th to 7th in the first season is very acceptable progress, next season I will be expecting a little more, but expecting, not demanding.
 
You're easily pleased, tbf.
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I am David.

I consider myself to be a realist, I realise how far we have fallen and I realise how hard and how long the journey back will be.

Its going to take longer than 9 months, 11th to 7th in the first season is very acceptable progress, next season I will be expecting a little more, but expecting, not demanding.
The "journey back" doesn't involve going from 11th to 7th mate.

It's a rubbish league beyond about 5 clubs and we're 7th.
 
The "journey back" doesn't involve going from 11th to 7th mate.

It's a rubbish league beyond about 5 clubs and we're 7th.

I strongly disagree.

The 6 clubs currently above us are in a different league, with regards the level of their projects.

Wage bill
1 Manchester City £216m £205m £193.8m £225m
2 Manchester United £187m £215.8m £203m £220.8m
3 Chelsea £190m £192.7m £215.6m £218m
4 Arsenal £166.4m £180.4m £192m £200.5m
5 Liverpool £140m £144m £152m £165.6m
6 Tottenham £112m £100.4m £110.5m £121.2m
7 Everton £66m £69.3m £74.7m £83m

Transfers

Manchester City £565,650,000
Manchester United £528,800,000
Chelsea £507,459,000
Liverpool £365,600,000
Tottenham £315,450,000
Arsenal £298,340,000
Everton £191,300,000

We need try and bridge the gap off the pitch and also on the pitch.

We need Morgans, not Toms.
 
I strongly disagree.

The 6 clubs currently above us are in a different league, with regards the level of their projects.

Wage bill
1 Manchester City £216m £205m £193.8m £225m
2 Manchester United £187m £215.8m £203m £220.8m
3 Chelsea £190m £192.7m £215.6m £218m
4 Arsenal £166.4m £180.4m £192m £200.5m
5 Liverpool £140m £144m £152m £165.6m
6 Tottenham £112m £100.4m £110.5m £121.2m
7 Everton £66m £69.3m £74.7m £83m

Transfers

Manchester City £565,650,000
Manchester United £528,800,000
Chelsea £507,459,000
Liverpool £365,600,000
Tottenham £315,450,000
Arsenal £298,340,000
Everton £191,300,000

We need try and bridge the gap off the pitch and also on the pitch.

We need Morgans, not Toms.

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I strongly disagree.

The 6 clubs currently above us are in a different league, with regards the level of their projects.

Wage bill
1 Manchester City £216m £205m £193.8m £225m
2 Manchester United £187m £215.8m £203m £220.8m
3 Chelsea £190m £192.7m £215.6m £218m
4 Arsenal £166.4m £180.4m £192m £200.5m
5 Liverpool £140m £144m £152m £165.6m
6 Tottenham £112m £100.4m £110.5m £121.2m
7 Everton £66m £69.3m £74.7m £83m

Transfers

Manchester City £565,650,000
Manchester United £528,800,000
Chelsea £507,459,000
Liverpool £365,600,000
Tottenham £315,450,000
Arsenal £298,340,000
Everton £191,300,000

We need try and bridge the gap off the pitch and also on the pitch.

We need Morgans, not Toms.

Spending doesn't make a great team. We've broken through into that lot about half the seasons over the past decade.
 

Spending doesn't make a great team. We've broken through into that lot about half the seasons over the past decade.

We have yes, but sadly, for whatever reason, we have just spent the last 2 seasons going backwards.

So this season was all about stopping the rot, getting back to our steady ground of "best of the rest", then hopefully in the summer we kick on and break through that "glass ceiling" we always felt was holding us back under Moyes.

If this Iranians got the dough.............
 
We have yes, but sadly, for whatever reason, we have just spent the last 2 seasons going backwards.

So this season was all about stopping the rot, getting back to our steady ground of "best of the rest", then hopefully in the summer we kick on and break through that "glass ceiling" we always felt was holding us back under Moyes.

If this Iranians got the dough.............
There will be money, it'll be ring fenced from the stadium scheme. :coffee:
 
Your stalking of Dave over this off topic question is quite frankly creepy.

I am curious because he praises and suggests how good Martinez is literally everyday and condemn the current manager at the sametime. Since this is a forum I am interested with his view on that but he did not answer anyway.
 
I am curious because he praises and suggests how good Martinez is literally everyday and condemn the current manager at the sametime. Since this is a forum I am interested with his view on that but he did not answer anyway.
TBF mate, he doesn't want Martinez back and has more than acknowledged that he had to go. I too think that issue could be left where it is now. Just my opinion like.
 

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