Ronald Koeman discussion

[Dirty Dutch]

Dirty lad, Southampton were synonymous with bringing through young players and turning them into stars. If the production line is now spluttering (which it does my appear to be anyway) then factor Koemans time there as a reason the process isn't what it was.

I'm sorry but you really don't know anything about football do you??? Players develop through youthteams by youth coaches en when they're good enough they will reach the first team. Then their career starts and the manager of the first team has to help them to fulfill their potential.

When they're not good enough and the potential isnt there the first team manager doesnt want them. Is that really to hard to understand???

There's never been a club in the world where they can add 2 or 3 youth players every two years. You always have periods when there isnt that much talent to choose from. But hey Lets just blame Koeman!!!!

 

[Dirty Dutch]

Ha ha. You asked for

A) direct quotes from Koeman about how he distrusts playing younger players - provided
B) evidence of Southampton youngsters now getting a chance again post Koeman - provided

Not one acknowledgement from you...and you then have the gall to ask me to clarify more obvious points for you.

Unreal.

Someone stick a fork in this lad, he's done.

Youngsters who're not good enough according to Saints fans who're seeing them play at under 23. So verry good judgement by Koeman, they all admit it now but again that doesnt fit in your own fantasyworld of course.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Reading people still insisting Koeman doesn't play youth players is akin to attending a meeting of the Flat Earth Society.
Genuinely hilarious. Keep it up lads, just be careful you don't fall of the edge!!

 

[davek]

Reading people still insisting Koeman doesn't play youth players is akin to attending a meeting of the Flat Earth Society.
Genuinely hilarious. Keep it up lads, just be careful you don't fall of the edge!!

By his own admission Koeman has said he doesn't favour playing them. But probably you know best.

 

[bazzer25]

So was just looking at our last 3 manager stats across all clubs and our current guy doesn't seem to be all that bad.....

Koeman games 630 win% 54.44
Roberto Martinez games 450 win% 39.8
David Moyes games 872 win% 43.12

Koeman certainly has the edge overall and has a slight edge so far in his Everton career. I want to be positive and say that I think he is going to bring back Evertons fighting spirit.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

By his own admission Koeman has said he doesn't favour playing them. But probably you know best.

I trust my eyes mate.

 

[davek]

I trust my eyes mate.

Me too. And there's no denying his own words in print, a point of view he expressed at Southampton and here a couple of times.

He's played a few younger players of late because his hand was forced.

Hopefully he's learning a big lesson.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Me too. And there's no denying his own words in print, a point of view he expressed at Southampton and here a couple of times.

He's played a few younger players of late because his hand was forced.

Hopefully he's learning a big lesson.

What are the quotes mate?

Not doubting you, just interested.

 

[Neiziro]

By his own admission Koeman has said he doesn't favour playing them. But probably you know best.

As many have said mate - he doesn't favour playing them, because most of the time they aren't good enough. The statement that he has a reasonless agenda against young players is utter wham.

Look at the young talent he brought through at Ajax, PSV, Valencia etc. I believe he gave both Zlatan and Mata their debuts, to name a few. No one in Southampton's youth side is good enough to consistently start for the first team and usually most academy players in any team never even make more than 1 appearance for their clubs if any.

 

[Goat]

Me too. And there's no denying his own words in print, a point of view he expressed at Southampton and here a couple of times.

He's played a few younger players of late because his hand was forced.

Hopefully he's learning a big lesson.

This is a man that gave Juan Mata his debut.

Its not something new to Ronny.

Take your agenda and shove it ra up your anus.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Me too. And there's no denying his own words in print, a point of view he expressed at Southampton and here a couple of times.

He's played a few younger players of late because his hand was forced.

Hopefully he's learning a big lesson.

Utter bilge water you spout mate. Who forced his hand? I want names and facts not fiction and fancy.
Four young players brought through debunks your openly hostile theory. Find another avenue to pursue your arch nemesis, this ones a dead end for you.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Dirty lad, Southampton were synonymous with bringing through young players and turning them into stars. If the production line is now spluttering (which it does my appear to be anyway) then factor Koemans time there as a reason the process isn't what it was.

Unbelievable

 

[Saint Domingo]

Koeman's Southampton had a great finish to their season last year. If that trait comes out in us as well we could seriously push some of the top 6.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Dave Koeman is playing Davies and Holgate as we're sweeping City aside 4-0. Jagielka and McCarthy are on the bench. What more do you want? Koeman obviously plays kids if he thinks they're good enough. This isn't a development programme or a finishing school. We're trying to compete at the top end of the toughest league in the world and he's throwing in two teenagers, three if Calvert Lewin hadn't been injured. No other managers are doing this. You're barking up the wrong tree here basing a whole argument on two seasons at Southampton were they had no decent kids coming through.

 

[Zezti]

Koeman's Southampton had a great finish to their season last year. If that trait comes out in us as well we could seriously push some of the top 6.

Yep. Consider also we have yet to pay Utd at OT so if we are able to pull off a win there however unlikely it may be, that's the gap between us and them down to 2 pts.