summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
What's changed then, if anything has indeed changed ?
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-2833#post-4721707
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-2833#post-4721707
brieverton
Player Valuation: £40m
True, I'd like to get a general idea of what would be considered a sustainable amount to spend net, without Moshiri contributing, so we could differentiate one from the other.
Martinez pay-off and Niasse fee won't have done us any favours there, and commercial revenue was down due to the poor league finishes. There seemed to be a consensus that the accounts would look bad save for Moshiri's interest free loan.
I actually don't doubt his bona-fides, and think his priority is the stadium, but figures get thrown about very easily - £100m warchest etc. It's difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff to be in a position to make a fair judgement at the end of the window. Then there is FFP too, my understanding was that we had to spend in this window to take advantage of the Stones fee.
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Legend Barry Horne
Player Valuation: £6m
We've made some decent signings since Walsh came in: Gana, Williams, Lookman
It's actually the ones we missed out on that were a bit worrying (and lucky near misses) - e.g. Sissoko, seems to have attitude problems. And Gabbiadini, a striker but not at all prolific. Perez hasn't set the world alight at Arsenal....
It's actually the ones we missed out on that were a bit worrying (and lucky near misses) - e.g. Sissoko, seems to have attitude problems. And Gabbiadini, a striker but not at all prolific. Perez hasn't set the world alight at Arsenal....
...I don't know, Matey. That post from Esk was July and I suppose Walsh was only getting his feet under the table at that stage. You would have to ask Esk.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
If that were so it should mean Kenwright should have less influence now. Anyway, @The Esk , if you could further elucidate ?
....I think Esks recent tweets are very accurate. Just saying.
Whats he tweeted mate? Dont do twitter me.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
I think I'm back in the unknown known's territory, or is it known unknowns, I'm lost.
Sapie88
Hi @Donald Twain
To be fair he's been injured then came back and slotted a hat trick.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I can't really get my head around that though. The idea that Moshiri doesn't want to spend masses and knows Kenwright and Elstone are useful fluffers for mistakes. If he wanted that he couldn't have got two better clowns to play the role, but I am really not sure it's what he wants.
Firstly there is his words. Both directly, but also via well sourced journo's that he wants to make Everton compete at the top end and is willing to spend big. There is also, perhaps more tellingly his words post Bolasie last season where he said he was "concerned" about lack of signings. These are not the words of a man happy to have Kenwright and Elstone scuppering things.
My own feeling is, Kenwright has sold Moshiri the dream of how astute he is and Moshiri has made something of a misjudgement and trusted him too long. My own personal view is that Usmanov will come on board publically at some point and buy Kenwright out once his shares are gone. This period is something of an interim. Maybe there was a tacit agreement that Kenwright would take a back seat, which is something he's unable to do?
I don't know but something doesn't add up. You have a guy who's popped over 100 million into the club and his mate who's given us 75 million quid over 5 years we've never had within a week, yet you also have the board haggling over 2 million quid. Something doesn't add up. You'd feel at some point questions will need to be answered.
I think I'm back in the unknown known's territory, or is it known unknowns, I'm lost.
...and who really knows what goes on.
...I suspect some changes might take time and diplomacy. I would hope/think Moshiri knows exactly what is going on and will ultimately address it.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I think and hope so too mate. I am certainly in the pro-Moshiri camp but I can certainly see, how if this transfer window goes the same way as the summer one that there will be some serious doubters. I've said many a time, Kenwright should be nowhere near the management of this club, and do think he will start to eek away at the credibility of Moshiri the longer he stays. Many people would have the humility to sit in the background, but Kenwright lacks this, and now we are operating more professionally it is glaringly obvious how out of his depth he is when he makes himself involved.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Probably better not to know.
Probably better not to know.
...I think the Esk has said it all.
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