kenada_blue
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Yes. Make him earn a place or go for the shop window. Barry's legs are gone.
And start the same system as against Southampton. We controlled that game.
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Yes. Make him earn a place or go for the shop window. Barry's legs are gone.
And start the same system as against Southampton. We controlled that game.
For all his faults though at least there was something post New Year in each of Martinez's seasons - in the first challenging for the CL places, the second had Europa and the third the domestic cups.
Not saying that Koeman should be turfed out of anything but between the generally boring football and early cup exits Koeman is a touch underwhelming so far.
longers
Parcheggia l'autobus
We're not selling or buying an entire team...
There are maybe three or four players who your comment may be relevant to, the majority of the squad will be required for the rest of the season and well into next season. Teams don't change overnight, as I'm sure you know.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
We were appalling in the cups in Martinez's first and second seasons don't forget
Of course. But a lack of motivation can be infectious.
Ashtonian
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Thing is, the same players who stopped playing for their former manager as well?
To be perfectly honest, I would let all of them go. I do genuinely believe that most of them need to be sold and replaced simply based on the attitudes they have. The only one I can think of who isn't past it/terrible/poor attitude is Coleman. Excluding the new signings obviously , but these players need replacing, or at least enough of them do to send a message that it isnt acceptable to not fight on the pitch. Because we know they can, they just choose not to when we really need them to.
So yeah, I'd say only sheamus should be kept, the rest should be sellable, any club who wants success wouod ship them out no matter how good they are.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Agreed with the bottom paragraph, won't entertain any positive from Martinez post 13/14. Far far too many weekends ruined.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I've seen enough of Koeman mate, and I think that outcome is nailed on. I am hugely disappointed by him.
Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
We only need 10 points so we won't reach the dizzying depths of Martinez
At least for Martinez the last manager had left something to build on
I don't think anyone has seriously suggested Koeman's removal as anything more than a joke. We're all backing him, but our brief and lethargic cup forays, more than any of our bad results in the league, will be a source of anxiety for those of us who already had our doubts about him. I don't think that's unfair either.
Dirty Dutch
Player Valuation: £1m
Hahaha are you having a laugh????
Man utd spend 300 mill and are 6th in the league and you think with spending 100 mill 5th place is not good enough???
Some people here really living in their own Everton dreamworld.
kenada_blue
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Martinez just about survived on his cup runs with that squad.
Koeman's cup record at Southampton is equally shocking to be fair (out in round 4 then round 3 both at home)
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Anyone suggesting that the same squad that got us to two cup SFs last season cant be expected to win at home in the 3rd round of the cup to a Mahrez/Vardy-less Leicester need to have a word with themselves.
The players aren't the issue. The manager is a poor fit on current evidence.
The players aren't the issue. The manager is a poor fit on current evidence.
I'd keep Lukaku, Baines, Coleman and Gana.
Maybe Kev.
But let's be honest it could just be that the team isn't good enough as a whole.
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