Ronald Koeman discussion

ianefc · January 2, 2017

Joey66 said:
It was only when Lennon went off as he was dire the changed formation gave us the very good win - again not a complete satisfactory 90 minutes , but the win was nice 3-0 was nice like , but overall still one shot on target in 45 minutes on target, more pluses then minuses today though from back to front in the team !

Yeah but Dave rates Lennon, he's said it ample times. He's woeful and always has been.

ianefc · January 2, 2017

ChrisBlue said:
Dave used to be good at this as well

Sad to see

His minions will still argue that this reaction is what he's looking for.

Joey66 · January 2, 2017

ianefc said:
I've been the match today and I'm buzzing we won. Just got in.

I'm now gonna have a read through the match day thread and see all the happy posts at the time the goals went in. I've got Jeff Stelling's show recorded and I'm gonna watch that to see the pundits reaction to our 3 goals and finally I'll then search for any radio commentarys I can find on various stations 'listen again' features.

After that I have MOTD set to record and Nissan match Choice on record on SS1.

Now I know that may be sad, but I think it's brilliant when we win and 7 points over Christmas will do just nicely.

The fume is ridiculous.

It does smack of wummery.

My older brother was there today I will get his feedback - he needs to go more than he can but has struggled for tickets he and his son got in at the Southampton end the tickets they sent back - he at the cup game v Leicester too so it bodes well!

The training since Hull must have been betterlol

davek · January 2, 2017

moyes cardy said:
Come on Dave - you make some good points when you post but there now being lost with what is now an obsession against our manager. The fact is we're 7th and whichever way we look at it we area damn sight better off if RM would still have been here. There remains lots of tough days ahead but for yoday we won 3 0 and let's enjoy rather than spin rest days etc etc.

I hope I'm proven wrong mate. I really do. But my overall assessment of this manager is that he will continue to be streaky in terms of getting results. It's what he's done before at other clubs, so why should the very real probability of it happening here be seen as unfair comment?

Thomasc · January 2, 2017

ChrisBlue said:
Half there outfield players hadn't played since the 28th, Only 3 had played the full 90 in the previous game

6 of our outfield 10 had played the full 180mins in the two games before this

Utter lolz Dave

He will ignore this post probably as it outs his point as a total failure

ChrisBlue · January 2, 2017

davek said:
I hope I'm proven wrong mate. I really do. But my overall assessment of this manager is that he will continue to be streaky in terms of getting results. It's what he's done before at other clubs, so why should the very real probability of it happening here be seen as unfair comment?

100% that will happen unless major investment is made

wainy · January 2, 2017

davek said:
I hope I'm proven wrong mate. I really do. But my overall assessment of this manager is that he will continue to be streaky in terms of getting results. It's what he's done before at other clubs, so why should the very real probability of it happening here be seen as unfair comment?

Take a streaky manager over one that's been relegated

Blues Harp · January 2, 2017

ianefc said:
His minions will still argue that this reaction is what he's looking for.

Despicable Me....Ha Ha -

bicycleheader · January 2, 2017

davek said:
Look, it was obviously a good three points today but you have to unpack that a little dont you? We were woeful most of the game and playing with the same clueless approach until very late in the game. It's not a stretch of anyone's imagination to put down the late surge to an opponent finishing off their third game of the last 6 days tiring badly.

How is that at all controversial? It's the only appraisal you can give that match. If both teams had a week to prepare for that game could you have seen this Everton team breaking down Southampton late on?

As usual you ruin reasonable points with another Dumb Dave Fact, that is not a fact but an opinion.

I can understand why most consider you a WUM when you stick in rubbish like that.

nsno-chris · January 2, 2017

davek said:
A team has also to prepare and train for opponents and two days less is a massive ask to do quick turnaround preparations.

Question: would you have liked us to have been the team playing it's third game today over the last 6 days, or would you have preferred we were the team that had the 8 days schedule?

That's 48 hours resting up and preparation time more that we had. Do you really think that wouldn't have a huge part to play in the result?

So what was hulls excuse today

Jebus_lives · January 2, 2017

davek said:
A team has also to prepare and train for opponents and two days less is a massive ask to do quick turnaround preparations.

Question: would you have liked us to have been the team playing it's third game today over the last 6 days, or would you have preferred we were the team that had the 8 days schedule?

That's 48 hours resting up and preparation time more that we had. Do you really think that wouldn't have a huge part to play in the result?

I'd always like us to have an advantage. I'd have us allowed to play with 15 if it meant we won every week.

Kurt. · January 2, 2017

davek said:
I hope I'm proven wrong mate. I really do. But my overall assessment of this manager is that he will continue to be streaky in terms of getting results. It's what he's done before at other clubs, so why should the very real probability of it happening here be seen as unfair comment?

You're game is getting weak Dave, maybe a lack of match fitness since your recent sabbatical ? Couple of weeks training and you'll be back up to scratch i'm sure.

MikeH72 · January 2, 2017

ianefc said:
Yeah but Dave rates Lennon, he's said it ample times. He's woeful and always has been.

He also thinks top European teams are after Funes Mori.

davek · January 2, 2017

The Rhino said:
We know you dont like Koeman but just reign it in mate eh? Never known a supporter that butt hurt over a manager being sacked that he'll go out his own way to hate the next one regardless of the results/performances. God help you if he's here for the next 2-3 seasons as your in for many weekends of disappointment mate.

Koeman was my choice to succeed Martinez. Not sure hw that fits into your theory like.

Look, after 6 months here an assessment of his overall performance and what we can expect is legitimate. IMO he is a manager that doesn't have a lot of smarts. He wants athleticism and pace and sometimes that serves you well, as it has some teams in the past. But I see no ability to craft a creative blend of players and a brand of football that can be turned to when playing long balls dont engineer chances.

That's my assessment thus far. If the evidence changes then so too will my opinion.

Joey66 · January 2, 2017

davek said:
I hope I'm proven wrong mate. I really do. But my overall assessment of this manager is that he will continue to be streaky in terms of getting results. It's what he's done before at other clubs, so why should the very real probability of it happening here be seen as unfair comment?

Not unfair at all it's your opinion we have half a season to go people on here just seem to jump down people's throats the Delboy one last night early hours I got stick just live with it Dave, you are right to have your own opinion -
I was so glad to see us win first 45 minutes on here not everyone was praising our team it's football!
At the end of the day though with Davis in midfield and Ross and Gaye we had pace in there it made a big difference