Ronald Koeman discussion

riddick · December 14, 2016

Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Yeah, it's only one win and we had to fight for it, so it's hardly proof one way or another regards to Koeman, but I'm going to enjoy it, and his utter slap down of Wenger, while I can!

Great post. Recent form says it probably won't change anything, but let's wait and see. I don't think he's the right man, personally, but that win yesterday should give everyone a stay. Arsenal are a VERY good team with one of, if not the best, player in the Premier League. Knives should be sheathed.

Prevenger17 · December 14, 2016

Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Yeah, it's only one win and we had to fight for it, so it's hardly proof one way or another regards to Koeman, but I'm going to enjoy it, and his utter slap down of Wenger, while I can!

Yeah, this really. Don't know why, but I had about 10 minutes there where I was more concerned with being consistent about my Koeman stance than enjoying the fact that Everton absolutely smashed into Arsenal like a freight train and won.

blue62 · December 14, 2016

Blue Cheese said:
I will take it on the chin because we won, that's all that matters at the end of the day. Let's see what the future holds instead of pretending we have turned a corner on the back of 1 result.

What? You will take an Everton win on the chin, I find it difficult to believe any Blue would come out with a remark like that, as for the rest of your post, 'we will see what the future holds' I don't think there's any doubt that you're hoping for a run of losses and a sacked manager, then we can start all over again. I normally ignore whoppers like you on here, but this post wins my award for the most ignorant, crass, half hearted Evertonian of the year, just in time for Christmas.

Mikey_Fitzgerald · December 14, 2016

Guys I think we all need to just calm down and take some time to reflect, whilst we burn @Blue Cheese in a giant wicker cheese toastie for his lack of faith in our glorious Dutch leader/tyrant

Seems only fair to me...

Blue Cheese · December 14, 2016

blue62 said:
What? You will take an Everton win on the chin, I find it difficult to believe any Blue would come out with a remark like that, as for the rest of your post, 'we will see what the future holds' I don't think there's any doubt that you're hoping for a run of losses and a sacked manager, then we can start all over again. I normally ignore whoppers like you on here, but this post wins my award for the most ignorant, crass, half hearted Evertonian of the year, just in time for Christmas.

ok mate x

You have awards, interesting.

Blue Cheese · December 14, 2016

Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Guys I think we all need to just calm down and take some time to reflect, whilst we burn @Blue Cheese in a giant wicker cheese toastie for his lack of faith in our glorious Dutch leader/tyrant

Seems only fair to me...

It's ok Mikey if it makes them feel better, bring it on.I'm still enjoying the feeling we won.

And I'm still not convinced on Koeman...And what!!

Groucho · December 14, 2016

blue62 said:
What? You will take an Everton win on the chin, I find it difficult to believe any Blue would come out with a remark like that, as for the rest of your post, 'we will see what the future holds' I don't think there's any doubt that you're hoping for a run of losses and a sacked manager, then we can start all over again. I normally ignore whoppers like you on here, but this post wins my award for the most ignorant, crass, half hearted Evertonian of the year, just in time for Christmas.

Less of the name calling.

jackyboy · December 14, 2016

I love him personally.

The binman chronicles · December 14, 2016

I'm overjoyed that we won, but if you put that in the sequence of previous results we are still in relegation form. I just hope that this is the kick-start that we needed and we can go on and get a run of good results. Koeman had a similar thing with Southampton with a string of good-bad-good form so he's got 'form' so to speak. Think I said form to many times, might be turning into Miranda Hart...FORM! :Blink:

Problem is if we get smashed on Monday we will be back to square one. I'm not going to think about it though I'm just happy we got the points and my new target is get to 40 so we just 17 from saftey now.

BlueToff · December 14, 2016

Blue Cheese said:
You wouldn't toff!

Maybe not ripped to shreds but I came on here and was nothing but positive this morning but a few of them were in the wings waiting, instead of enjoying the result. Bit weird.

fair enough pal

I'm not getting carried away.

My main point has been that what occurred last night is the performance that Koeman has been demanding.

It's that intensity and aggression that he wants, and that in turn will allow the decent togger to be played.

To ensure that the team keeps this up consistently, there needs to be more players better suited to that style brought in - and players that will allow us to win games in different ways. But the fundamentals need to be right first. For two years those fundamentals have been missing.

moyes cardy · December 14, 2016

The sad thing being if we had lost we no doubt would be another 100 pages further on. We're have all the Koehaters gone?

Prevenger17 · December 14, 2016

On a slightly separate note, I forgot that ugly football can be as exciting as hell.

Gwladysstreetlad · December 14, 2016

Prevenger17 said:
Martinez earned that patience early on. Koeman will need to get a lot more of last night's performance out of this team before he earns it too. Like I said, I want him to succeed. Last night was incredible, if he gets us firing like that most weeks you'll get no argument from me.

Look I don't want another Koeman vs Martinez debate as it's been done to death recently but their starts as manager's for us are apples and oranges. Martinez had a really good side when he first arrived here plus was given decent funds in the transfer market and with some tweaking we shocked a fair few people that season. Koeman has been left a piss poor side that needs to be completely revamped and was totally let down in the summer transfer market by the club. If the players show the level of fight and pride they did last night then more of them MIGHT stay around a little longer. I Just think we owe any new manager the some time to make his mark at this club (unless it's a complete disaster and I'm sorry but Koemans run doesn't even come close to that for me).

Blue Cheese · December 14, 2016

BlueToff said:
fair enough pal

I'm not getting carried away.

My main point has been that what occurred last night is the performance that Koeman has been demanding.

It's that intensity and aggression that he wants, and that in turn will allow the decent togger to be played.

To ensure that the team keeps this up consistently, there needs to be more players better suited to that style brought in - and players that will allow us to win games in different ways. But the fundamentals need to be right first. For two years those fundamentals have been missing.

Not going to disagree, as long as they keep up that level of performance in the rest of the games, happy days.

Groucho · December 14, 2016

Just noting the above - Martinez was left a confident and well drilled side and was able to add Lukaku. Koeman was left a defensively weak and lacklustre side with it's confidence shot and was not able to bolster in his first window.

Lots more time for me.