Ronald Koeman discussion

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

What 'top' youngsters haven't been integrated already?

Davies is on the verge I'd say - Koeman sees him train with the first team every day and hasn't deemed him ready to come into a side low on confidence.

Holgate has been in the 18 or starting 11 every game this season.

The other youngsters aren't anywhere close to being ready.

Hence why Rodge thinks it was a "balls up" to hire him I suppose?

How do we know he isn't amazing in training and Koeman is just wrong?

I think we can only base our views on what we've seen, and from what we've seen, Davies has to be above all but Gana and Barry in the pecking order at this point, especially when Jimmy Mac and Tom The Clev have failed to impress and Gibson is so thoroughly unreliable

How Davies isn't on the bench right now is an utter mystery

 

[eurosrees]

http://www.football365.com/news/meet-the-new-everton-same-as-the-old-everton

F365 have it spot on here: "Part of a manager’s job is to improve and develop, not simply to buy players already suited to a certain style."

 

[Prevenger17]

@AndyC is moving up my favourite mod list.

Could you please show us your list as it is?

 

[Roger Milla]

I agree - though Seamus is our first choice and imo you don't lose your place due to injury.

Holgate is a centre-half who will be a full-back, but he made mistakes and still has a lot to learn.

I hope he gets more gametime. Same with Davies.

But I think it's pretty clear Koeman wanted to look at the experienced first-teamers and what they had to offer first. Which is a completely logical thing to do.

Now, if Davies comes into the team, he'll be hyped by our fans so much (and don't even argue he wouldn't be) that he couldn't possibly live up to expectations when he inevitably comes in and we get beat 3-0 or something.

It's a lot easier to bring youngsters into a team playing with confidence.

That being said, I do think he should be more involved, but that's based on a few U23 games I've seen and his minutes on the pitch for the first team. I don't see him day in day out.

So what you're saying is you'd rather play crap with senior players rather than give your or inexperienced players a chance they've earned and deserve?

Seamus didn't lose his place through injury as he didn't start the season, regardless of that and Holgate's age and natural position, Holgate was playing a lot better than what Coleman has played since he returned.

And who cares if Davies is hyped or not, more irrelevant chatter... he deserves to be ahead of Cleverly and McCarthy, under no circumstances should those 2 no marks be holding up his progression.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Just win tomorrow and end this misery Ronald you boring little letdown (so far)

 

[AndyC]

@AndyC is moving up my favourite mod list.

Flattery will get you every... er nowhere mate

 

[Connor]

Very open and honest press conference this afternoon.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Could you please show us your list as it is?

@micknick (I'm not stupid)
@Muggins
@TX Bill

several dozen mod, ex mod and mod candidates later...

@Tubey

 

[Blue Cheese]

http://www.football365.com/news/meet-the-new-everton-same-as-the-old-everton

F365 have it spot on here: "Part of a manager’s job is to improve and develop, not simply to buy players already suited to a certain style."

Ssshhhh lad don't want this slipping out, be wanting him to earn his wages next.

 

[Prevenger17]

@micknick (I'm not stupid)
@Muggins
@TX Bill

several dozen mod, ex mod and mod candidates later...

@Tubey

Honestly don't think I'll ever live to see Tubey become mod.

 

[JLW]

Very open and honest press conference this afternoon.

Very Honest

 

[BernieWright13]

fat ginger biff

You're right. We were doing him a huge disservice by omitting mention of his strawberry blond locks

"Cripesh, what short of color they are calling thish?"

 

[jtl60]

I half expect to wake up to headline that Koeman has resigned, I dont know what it is, but he just doesn't seem to be enjoying or really embracing life at Everton

 

[ImKoneKoneKoneKone]

I half expect to wake up to headline that Koeman has resigned, I dont know what it is, but he just doesn't seem to be enjoying or really embracing life at Everton

fully agree in his non arsed approach/personality, was he like this at southampton too?

 

[jtl60]

fully agree in his non arsed approach/personality, was he like this at southampton too?

I don't know, I did wonder that as well. Even his post match interviews are half hearted