Ronald Koeman discussion

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If we Evertonians had been as impatient and as petulant in the early 1980s as we are today, Howard Kendall would have been shown the door before he could win anything at all. We didn't once finish in the top 6 once during Kendall's first three seasons as manager.

Rebuilding squads takes time. It took Martinez several years to turn us into a regular bottom half side; it could take Ronald even longer than that to make us great again. We will get there eventually, though. Our new manager is a proven winner.

Keep the faith.
 
If we Evertonians had been as impatient and as petulant in the early 1980s as we are today, Howard Kendall would have been shown the door before he could win anything at all. We didn't once finish in the top 6 once during Kendall's first three seasons as manager.

Rebuilding squads takes time. It took Martinez several years to turn us into a regular bottom half side; it could take Ronald even longer than that to make us great again. We will get there eventually, though. Our new manager is a proven winner.

Keep the faith.
A manager can do it in a first season. Martinez proved that. Koeman looks like a rabbit caught in headlights.
 

Some telling comments today on that Soccer Saturday programme (I know!) regarding the Lukaku situation and Koeman's words and Everton's general position in terms of spending. Basically a disbelief there's anything in the pot to spend and we're selling to buy under Koeman every bit as much as we were under Moyes and Martinez.
FFS Sky nobheads talking EFC down shock !! Big nose, etc ....little old Everton. Kenwrong out - what happened to your anti Bill stance ??
 
So what's your analysis of that mate? In particular like.

I thought his team selection was fine, if maybe a bit on the cautious side.

Jagielka should, IMO, not have started. McCarthy would have ideally been on the bench for me as well with Davies starting, but the lad had a knock by all accounts.

The tactics (as in a 4-2-3-1) were/are not up to scratch, and it's telling that as soon as we switched to a 4-3-3 we looked much better, with Barkley given more space to operate.

His subs were left a bit late as well, and when he brought Kev on to play as a 10 it showed IMO what we should have been doing from the start.

However, the players need a huge kick up the arse. And I'm not sure if they got it.

Koeman said afterwards that he was angry. Angry that it always takes the opposition doing something before we wake up. He knows the problem, but I think it's quickly becoming apparent he can't solve it with this squad of players - which as I said a few weeks ago is adept at playing one way and one way only.
 
In fairness, Martinez inherited a top 6 side.

He did. But Koean inherited the players that also took us to 5th under Martinez and played a lot of good football.

Now we're 7th, sure, but we're heading in the wrong direction and we are comfortably the worst team to watch in terms of creativity in the league.

It's the worst Everton team since Smith's days. That is an absolute scandal. The great Koeman producing tat like this or £6M per year. He must be pissing himself. at all the plaudits he's been getting
 

I think you need your bed mate

He would've fit right in Mikey... maddingly inconsistent ;)

But I get Mout's point I think. Sissoko - pace and power and a bit of flare.

He runs at players, he pushed the opposition back.

Too often today McCarthy got the ball and simply passed it wide, just as an example (he wasn't the only one like).
 
I thought his team selection was fine, if maybe a bit on the cautious side.

Jagielka should, IMO, not have started. McCarthy would have ideally been on the bench for me as well with Davies starting, but the lad had a knock by all accounts.

The tactics (as in a 4-2-3-1) were/are not up to scratch, and it's telling that as soon as we switched to a 4-3-3 we looked much better, with Barkley given more space to operate.

His subs were left a bit late as well, and when he brought Kev on to play as a 10 it showed IMO what we should have been doing from the start.

However, the players need a huge kick up the arse. And I'm not sure if they got it.

Koeman said afterwards that he was angry. Angry that it always takes the opposition doing something before we wake up. He knows the problem, but I think it's quickly becoming apparent he can't solve it with this squad of players - which as I said a few weeks ago is adept at playing one way and one way only.
He wants to look in the mirror and get angry too.

This squad can play better football than this tat.
 
He would've fit right in Mikey... maddingly inconsistent ;)

But I get Mout's point I think. Sissoko - pace and power and a bit of flare.

He runs at players, he pushed the opposition back.

Too often today McCarthy got the ball and simply passed it wide, just as an example (he wasn't the only one like).

He gets the ball and he looks forward, none of our midfielders look forward.
 
Think our midfield is poor.
Only way we can make it work is with a 36 year old playmaker and an energiser bunny working together.
Either one of them out and Koeman has yet to put something together that works.
That's the challenge.
 

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