Boxing

mitchell1996 · October 15, 2016

widnesblue said:
Let's be honest here, Haye as not looked good since he beat Mormack. He got dropped early in that fight too. It was an impressive performance against Mormack. What was that 2008/2009? Haye as looked poor as an heavyweight. His best wins came agains Mormack and Enzo

Bellew has no chance against Haye. Haye is 1/7 for the fight and even that is good odds, he knocks Bellew clean out inside 6 even if he is well past his best. Lets not forgot Bellew was knocked clean out by Stevenson and dropped multiple times by light heavyweights, who hit nowhere near as hard as david haye. Its a mismatch

widnesblue · October 15, 2016

LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
Think the problem for Bellew would be, if he went gung - ho and got caught by Haye, it's goodnight Vienna.

True. If it's at heavyweight Haye wins all day. If it's at catchweight, Bellew stands a chance.

orly · October 15, 2016

Big fan of Bellew and genuinely in awe of the career he has been able to create for himself. Should be applauded for getting a world championship fight at Goodison- let alone winning it!! Plus the movie and so on.

@Tubey absolutely spot on - Bellew getting a top of the bill monster payday with Hayes is excellent business. Lose and he's retiring in silk pyjamas anyway having achieved all his targets , win and he's gilded the lily. Well done him.

Personal opinion sadly is that if he fights Haye in the next year or so he's going to get punished severely

LouReedwalkonthewildside · October 15, 2016

widnesblue said:
True. If it's at heavyweight Haye wins all day. If it's at catchweight, Bellew stands a chance.

Listening to Haye talking after the fight, he's not moving from heavyweight.

widnesblue · October 15, 2016

mitchell1996 said:
Bellew has no chance against Haye. Haye is 1/7 for the fight and even that is good odds, he knocks Bellew clean out inside 6 even if he is well past his best. Lets not forgot Bellew was knocked clean out by Stevenson and dropped multiple times by light heavyweights, who hit nowhere near as hard as david haye. Its a mismatch

Stevenson knocks out almost everyone though. He's a massive puncher. I'm not defending Bellew,but he was never a light heavyweight. You could tell he was struggling in some of those lesser fights at LHW. I remember the first fight against Cleverly and I'm suprised he lasted that fight against someone whose a natural LHW. He got that fight On short notice and pushed him very close. Every fighter will tell you, losing that weight drains you. If, and it's a massive If, they fight at heavyweight, Haye wins. Catchweight, Bellew as a chance.

widnesblue · October 15, 2016

LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
Listening to Haye talking after the fight, he's not moving from heavyweight.

I don't think he would either! Like Bellew, Haye struggled to make weight for his run in the crusiwrweights. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens in the next few months between these two.

edge · October 15, 2016

LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
Listening to Haye talking after the fight, he's not moving from heavyweight.

He will go were the money is if he fights any of the top heavyweights he gets beat in my eyes , not looking like the fighter of a few years ago, might only have one decent payday left.

widnesblue · October 15, 2016

edge said:
He will go were the money is if he fights any of the top heavyweights he gets beat in my eyes , not looking like the fighter of a few years ago, might only have one decent payday left.

The heavyweight division as moved on from Haye. Haye is stuck in a tough place. He's to big for cruiser and to small for the heavyweights of today.

Read somewhere recently, that Joe calzage weighed the same as Rocky Marciano for his last fight against Roy Jones Jr. at LHW.

edge · October 15, 2016

widnesblue said:
The heavyweight division as moved on from Haye. Haye is stuck in a tough place. He's to big for cruiser and to small for the heavyweights of today.

Read somewhere recently, that Joe calzage weighed the same as Rocky Marciano for his last fight against Roy Jones Jr. at LHW.

I was watching Rocky Marciano v Louis the other night shocking the size of them to modern fighters .

widnesblue · October 15, 2016

edge said:
I was watching Rocky Marciano v Louis the other night shocking the size of them to modern fighters .

The heavyweights of the early 1920's are pretty much modern day super middle weights.

marsh · October 16, 2016

artetas sock said:
I'm guessing he beat you in the playground when you were 6?

No

mitchell1996 · October 16, 2016

widnesblue said:
Let's be honest here, Haye as not looked good since he beat Mormack. He got dropped early in that fight too. It was an impressive performance against Mormack. What was that 2008/2009? Haye as looked poor as an heavyweight. His best wins came agains Mormack and Enzo

Haye knocks Bellew out in 6 rounds, would happily bet big on that

mitchell1996 · October 16, 2016

Anyone acting like Haye-Bellew would be competitive please stop watching boxing, it would be a blow out. I don't care if hes a blue hes an absolute whopper.

mitchell1996 · October 16, 2016

widnesblue said:
Stevenson knocks out almost everyone though. He's a massive puncher. I'm not defending Bellew,but he was never a light heavyweight. You could tell he was struggling in some of those lesser fights at LHW. I remember the first fight against Cleverly and I'm suprised he lasted that fight against someone whose a natural LHW. He got that fight On short notice and pushed him very close. Every fighter will tell you, losing that weight drains you. If, and it's a massive If, they fight at heavyweight, Haye wins. Catchweight, Bellew as a chance.

No, Bellew doesn't have a chance, catchweight or not. He is bang average, goes on like hes some massive puncher when is reality he isn't, i would honestly fear for him if he fought Haye, regardless of the power of Haye, hes out of his league. He's not the best cruiserweight in the world and he would get chinned unconscious by Haye, facts.