Everton Transfer Thread 2016

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davek said:
Where there's a will, there's a way.

Nothing to stop Moshiri tying up commercial deals with his own group outside EFC and boosting the club's commercial income that way to provide wriggle room on wages. City did it a couple of seasons back and I'm sure it's a tactic adopted elsewhere. Also, IIRC, Everton's wages as a % of turnover is dramatically increased by outsourcing services. Again, that's something that could be looked at if squad investment were a priority.
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100% correct on the outsourcing of services having a big negative impact on our ability to generate additonal commercial income and thuis raising wages mate - hopefully they are all brought back in house as contracts expire or buyout options are available (assuming we have inserted those)
The additional 'sponsorship' that teams like Cities owners do - dunno if Moshiri has the capability to do that - wealthy he is but a different stratosphere to the shiekhs wealth in all honesty, can see maybe a short term sponsorship being arranged for the spruced up Goodison though.

The crux of the matter for me comes down to 'how much' he wants to increase the wages by and how much he manages to do it by (two very different questions and answers)

Just going off what a few have said with more knowledge than me in what ambitions are, then he wants to raise it by 45-50m or so, the onyl way this would be achievable is by selling Stones frankly, been over the math and even selling fringe players - unwanted ones etc like Cleverley, McCarthy, Lennon etc and arranging a few new commercial deals which are 'realistic' would still leave us way short of that figure (roughly half way or so)

But if we don't meet that ambition and instead sell Stones and then subsequently with our transfer dealings only raise the limit by a significantly lower amount (say 15-20m) then we have sold a prize asset when we could have hit that goal through other means which would not have impacted the team in the slightest - or the way we are percieved in the media (which selling stones will certainly do).

If the latter is what happens then we have a right to question the sale, we also have to wonder about the strategy in place at the top - because we will have used are get out of jail free card to allow us to raise the wages to the amount we are trying to - then only decided to have used half the alloted amount - which would be completely contradictory to what the supposed long term aim is, and would in effect mean we are 25-35m down on what the goal was - a figure that in subsequent years to reach we would have to icnrease commercial deals by that amount extra over what the plan has alreadyb calculated to hit the same level of 'bridging the gap' to spurs the rs etc, and that to me looks an impossible figure to magic out of thin air and would give a reason why we had to sell another big name player for the 'betterment of the club' in an additional year or two - which woudl set alarm bells ringing
 
bluestevon said:
100% correct on the outsourcing of services having a big negative impact on our ability to generate additonal commercial income and thuis raising wages mate - hopefully they are all brought back in house as contracts expire or buyout options are available (assuming we have inserted those)
The additional 'sponsorship' that teams like Cities owners do - dunno if Moshiri has the capability to do that - wealthy he is but a different stratosphere to the shiekhs wealth in all honesty, can see maybe a short term sponsorship being arranged for the spruced up Goodison though.

The crux of the matter for me comes down to 'how much' he wants to increase the wages by and how much he manages to do it by (two very different questions and answers)

Just going off what a few have said with more knowledge than me in what ambitions are, then he wants to raise it by 45-50m or so, the onyl way this would be achievable is by selling Stones frankly, been over the math and even selling fringe players - unwanted ones etc like Cleverley, McCarthy, Lennon etc and arranging a few new commercial deals which are 'realistic' would still leave us way short of that figure (roughly half way or so)

But if we don't meet that ambition and instead sell Stones and then subsequently with our transfer dealings only raise the limit by a significantly lower amount (say 15-20m) then we have sold a prize asset when we could have hit that goal through other means which would not have impacted the team in the slightest - or the way we are percieved in the media (which selling stones will certainly do).

If the latter is what happens then we have a right to question the sale, we also have to wonder about the strategy in place at the top - because we will have used are get out of jail free card to allow us to raise the wages to the amount we are trying to - then only decided to have used half the alloted amount - which would be completely contradictory to what the supposed long term aim is, and would in effect mean we are 25-35m down on what the goal was - a figure that in subsequent years to reach we would have to icnrease commercial deals by that amount extra over what the plan has alreadyb calculated to hit the same level of 'bridging the gap' to spurs the rs etc, and that to me looks an impossible figure to magic out of thin air and would give a reason why we had to sell another big name player for the 'betterment of the club' in an additional year or two - which woudl set alarm bells ringing
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If we sold out fringe players we would make up the money needed....we dont need £40mil+ as we wont spend £900k a week...
 
Zatara said:
If we sold out fringe players we would make up the money needed....we dont need £40mil+ as we wont spend £900k a week...
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As i said mate, only at the very end of the transfer window will we be able to judge it fully, I am hugely sceptical that we will raise the wages this summer by more than 500-600k for example, which would be an achievable figure without selling Stones, but only time will show us that.
 


The Esk said:
Williams within 48 hours subject to Swansea acting sensibly.

With Stones likely to go to City by mid week, and City wanting a player/cash deal I'd think Hart was more likely than Bony.

If Hart is not part of deal then Begovic.

Witsel - down to him, if his team can accept deal that's on the table then we are in business. If not time to move on, however as I've said throughout the summer I expect him in an Everton shirt.

I'd say we are in prime position re Mata based on knowledge of previous discussions earlier this summer.

Still plenty of talk re Carvalho and Adrien should not be discounted.

As I've said earlier I expect another 7 in before close of window 3 or 4 this week the remainder before the window closes.

Still v confident.
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The goalkeeper situation dosent exactly fill me with confidence. I dont particulary rate Hart or Begovic.
Any other goalkeepers on our radar at all?
 
BlueToff said:
we've spent about £8mil on players, £8mil on Koeman, a considerable amount on Walsh.

The money is there. We've agreed a 30mil EURO fee with Zenit over a month ago for our favourite Belgian midfielder, and are willing to go to way over £10mil to sign Williams - a proven quality centre half and the captain of a rival club...
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Plus what we spent on getting rid of Marinez and his band of merry men, but that doesn't suit the agenda of most on here
 
bluestevon said:
100% correct on the outsourcing of services having a big negative impact on our ability to generate additonal commercial income and thuis raising wages mate - hopefully they are all brought back in house as contracts expire or buyout options are available (assuming we have inserted those)
The additional 'sponsorship' that teams like Cities owners do - dunno if Moshiri has the capability to do that - wealthy he is but a different stratosphere to the shiekhs wealth in all honesty, can see maybe a short term sponsorship being arranged for the spruced up Goodison though.

The crux of the matter for me comes down to 'how much' he wants to increase the wages by and how much he manages to do it by (two very different questions and answers)

Just going off what a few have said with more knowledge than me in what ambitions are, then he wants to raise it by 45-50m or so, the onyl way this would be achievable is by selling Stones frankly, been over the math and even selling fringe players - unwanted ones etc like Cleverley, McCarthy, Lennon etc and arranging a few new commercial deals which are 'realistic' would still leave us way short of that figure (roughly half way or so)

But if we don't meet that ambition and instead sell Stones and then subsequently with our transfer dealings only raise the limit by a significantly lower amount (say 15-20m) then we have sold a prize asset when we could have hit that goal through other means which would not have impacted the team in the slightest - or the way we are percieved in the media (which selling stones will certainly do).

If the latter is what happens then we have a right to question the sale, we also have to wonder about the strategy in place at the top - because we will have used are get out of jail free card to allow us to raise the wages to the amount we are trying to - then only decided to have used half the alloted amount - which would be completely contradictory to what the supposed long term aim is, and would in effect mean we are 25-35m down on what the goal was - a figure that in subsequent years to reach we would have to icnrease commercial deals by that amount extra over what the plan has alreadyb calculated to hit the same level of 'bridging the gap' to spurs the rs etc, and that to me looks an impossible figure to magic out of thin air and would give a reason why we had to sell another big name player for the 'betterment of the club' in an additional year or two - which woudl set alarm bells ringing
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Too long
 

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