Yorkie
Player Valuation: £35m
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Billy Dean
Player Valuation: £70m
Not world class though, failed repeatedly at int'l level. Euro 2012 was the only tournament in which he was half decent.
Great players don't necessarily make great judges of talent. Pele once said Steve McManaman was the best player in the world didn't he? Or was it Nicky Butt?
longers
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Yeah but when the list includes Zidane, Ronaldinho, Maldini, Ancelloti, Henry, Kaka, Totti, Viera etc i think it's safe to say he was pretty boss and world class.
He was also one of Englands better players in tournaments, granted that's not saying much but the world cup and euros haven't been the pinnacle of football for years now. Id never let either of those tournaments change my views on a player, especially if they play for England who are just born losers.
onlyme
Player Valuation: £10m
No I think it was Nick Barmby
outplaying Pogba, and people still moan at him, incredible
Darth Vader
Player Valuation: £25m
Been proved massively wrong with Barkley
Thought he was over hyped
If anything he's going under the radar this season
Lads a diamond
Thought he was over hyped
If anything he's going under the radar this season
Lads a diamond
bluerobert
Player Valuation: £35m
Messi hasn't exactly set the international scene alight. Does that make him not world class? What about Scholes, Giggs, Best etc? I wouldn't really hold not playing well for your national team as criteria for being world class or not. Past players like Pele, Maradonna, Cryuff all played in a time when there was a handful of top nations. Would they have been as effective in modern international football? We will never know. What about Klose, his international record is top draw but I wouldn't put him in the elite striker category
all those players won league titles though
Good article, only quoted part of it as it is long.
http://www.squawka.com/news/23-under-23-ross-barkley/589206
Ross Barkley has never been short on self-belief, which is just as well.
He’s needed it, not just as the inspiration to train hard, improve and express himself as one of the most exciting midfielders of his generation, but also to help him through the dark times.
In 2010, he suffered a triple leg fracture playing for England’s Under 19s: an injury that not only threatened to set back the 16-year-old’s progress toward Everton’s first team but that could have potentially ended his chances of ever playing football professionally.
image: http://www.squawka.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/20-Ross-Barkley-graphic.png
Fortunately, his mental fortitude, hunger for the game and belief in his own abilities saw him through — qualities that continue to drive him on. “I’m a player who entertains and gets people on the edge of their seats,” he told The Telegraph in November 2015, some fives years on from breaking his leg. A little arrogance is no bad thing for a talented footballer if they have the goods to back it up and Barkley certainly doesn’t lack for evidence.
Not only is he the top performing player under the age of 23 in the Premier League according to Squawka’s performance data, he is currently the top-rated Premier League player full stop. With eight goals, seven assists and more shots than Yaya Toure or Sergio Aguero (73), it would be rude to ignore his form this season.
http://www.squawka.com/news/23-under-23-ross-barkley/589206
Ross Barkley has never been short on self-belief, which is just as well.
He’s needed it, not just as the inspiration to train hard, improve and express himself as one of the most exciting midfielders of his generation, but also to help him through the dark times.
In 2010, he suffered a triple leg fracture playing for England’s Under 19s: an injury that not only threatened to set back the 16-year-old’s progress toward Everton’s first team but that could have potentially ended his chances of ever playing football professionally.
image: http://www.squawka.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/20-Ross-Barkley-graphic.png
Fortunately, his mental fortitude, hunger for the game and belief in his own abilities saw him through — qualities that continue to drive him on. “I’m a player who entertains and gets people on the edge of their seats,” he told The Telegraph in November 2015, some fives years on from breaking his leg. A little arrogance is no bad thing for a talented footballer if they have the goods to back it up and Barkley certainly doesn’t lack for evidence.
Not only is he the top performing player under the age of 23 in the Premier League according to Squawka’s performance data, he is currently the top-rated Premier League player full stop. With eight goals, seven assists and more shots than Yaya Toure or Sergio Aguero (73), it would be rude to ignore his form this season.
bluerobert
Player Valuation: £35m
Did they win them singlehandedly?
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
I think there was a period where he was definitely a world class attacking midfielder.
The problem is that Liverpool fans try to skew it so he's remembered as one of the best centre midfielders of all time, despite the fact he was always woefully exposed when asked to play with any sort of responsibility or discipline.
If you want to objectively compare him to Barkley, you'd have to say that his long passing game and eye for a defence-splitter were on another planet (they're not really things Barkley seems to have in his locker). He didn't have anything like as much skill or subtlety about him, though.
I'm more on board with the Gascoigne/Yaya Toure comparisons anyway.
so we can scratch off the argument of gerrard single handily winning anything as well then
bluerobert
Player Valuation: £35m
Of course he didn't win them anything singlehandedly. Whatever they won with him in the team was a team effort.
Pele won titles in Brazil and America, does that make his achievements any less revered.
Gerrard stayed with Liverpool through loyalty. All because the team he stayed in wasn't good enough to win a league doesn't detract from his ability.
yes it does, one of the arguments for maradona over pele is often his time at napoli, which is without doubt more revered than pele's time at new york.
I wouldn't argue one particular aspect makes a player world class, if we are using the term for the truly elite, its a combination of things, and as a player Gerrard does not tick enough boxes, I agree with Roy Keanes assessment, who by the way had no problem calling henry or viera world class
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