Making a Murderer Documentary on Netflix

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They should have found a shed load of blood somewhere in that property. They didn't.

That's all I've got.

That's one of my bug bears with it as well. The state argued she was tied up and murdered in Steve Avery's bedroom then dragged his garage and cut up, before being burned. There was not a single drop of blood in any of these locations. To me that is just not possible, given that the defendant is alleged to have slit her throat, stabbed her and then shot her in the head. There would be lots of blood, pints of it, all over the bedding, bed, carpet, etc.

The Key for the car being found in his trailer is dodgy as well, why was it found after several searches, not straight away? Why did it only have Steve Avery's DNA, not the victim's DNA? Why was it only found when Lenk was searching unsupervised?

Steve Avery's blood being found in the car was complete hogwash, there is no way that came from Steve directly, the blood sample from the first case being tampered with proved this, it was found in completely un-natural areas. It was clear from evidence of Teresa's blood and hair being found in the boot of the car that Teresa was killed away from the Avery property and then transferred there.

I thought it was strange that the defense were not allowed to suggest who may have committed the crime. for me there are two possible options;

The victim was receiving harassing phone calls (testimony from a work colleague), this could have been her ex boyfriend, he stayed very close to the investigation all the way through, he also had access to her home, through her room mate and admitted to hacking into her mobile phone online billing by "guessing" her password. He was never questioned by police and never had to provide an alibi to his whereabouts. He also happened to loan a camera to two women who were sent to the Avery scrap yard and found the car. No one else from the search party was given a camera.

Also her Brother seemed a very odd character to me. He put himself in front of the camera's a lot during the investigation and the trial. Whilst the victim was still missing he was interviewed and said something along the lines "hopefully Teressa's body is found soon so the grieving process can begin". It seemed very odd to me like he already knew she was dead. He admitted during the trial that he had hacked into Teresa's voicemail to listen to the messages. The defense called a person from the phone company as a witness who states that voicemail messages were deleted after Teresa's death. Could her brother have deleted incriminating messages? Also I noticed during the sentencing, they played a video of Teresa, in it she mentioned how much she loved her; dad, mom and sisters. No mention of a brother!

I don't believe the police committed the Murder, but I do think they planted evidence to try to ensure a conviction, the Car, the Key, Steve's blood, the bullet. They are all tainted. The Sherriff, Ken Peterson, believes Avery belongs in Jail, he was involved in the first framing in 85 and Lenk and Colburn carried out his orders this time round.
 
That's one of my bug bears with it as well. The state argued she was tied up and murdered in Steve Avery's bedroom then dragged his garage and cut up, before being burned. There was not a single drop of blood in any of these locations. To me that is just not possible, given that the defendant is alleged to have slit her throat, stabbed her and then shot her in the head. There would be lots of blood, pints of it, all over the bedding, bed, carpet, etc.

The Key for the car being found in his trailer is dodgy as well, why was it found after several searches, not straight away? Why did it only have Steve Avery's DNA, not the victim's DNA? Why was it only found when Lenk was searching unsupervised?

Steve Avery's blood being found in the car was complete hogwash, there is no way that came from Steve directly, the blood sample from the first case being tampered with proved this, it was found in completely un-natural areas. It was clear from evidence of Teresa's blood and hair being found in the boot of the car that Teresa was killed away from the Avery property and then transferred there.

I thought it was strange that the defense were not allowed to suggest who may have committed the crime. for me there are two possible options;

The victim was receiving harassing phone calls (testimony from a work colleague), this could have been her ex boyfriend, he stayed very close to the investigation all the way through, he also had access to her home, through her room mate and admitted to hacking into her mobile phone online billing by "guessing" her password. He was never questioned by police and never had to provide an alibi to his whereabouts. He also happened to loan a camera to two women who were sent to the Avery scrap yard and found the car. No one else from the search party was given a camera.

Also her Brother seemed a very odd character to me. He put himself in front of the camera's a lot during the investigation and the trial. Whilst the victim was still missing he was interviewed and said something along the lines "hopefully Teressa's body is found soon so the grieving process can begin". It seemed very odd to me like he already knew she was dead. He admitted during the trial that he had hacked into Teresa's voicemail to listen to the messages. The defense called a person from the phone company as a witness who states that voicemail messages were deleted after Teresa's death. Could her brother have deleted incriminating messages? Also I noticed during the sentencing, they played a video of Teresa, in it she mentioned how much she loved her; dad, mom and sisters. No mention of a brother!

I don't believe the police committed the Murder, but I do think they planted evidence to try to ensure a conviction, the Car, the Key, Steve's blood, the bullet. They are all tainted. The Sherriff, Ken Peterson, believes Avery belongs in Jail, he was involved in the first framing in 85 and Lenk and Colburn carried out his orders this time round.

I agree with all of this.

Also, it's not as if Steven's the brightest tool in the box. As if he'd be able clinically clean up EVERY trace of blood in the entire Avery property. The whole thing stinks.

The blood in the vehicle is also a little too obvious. Even someone as dense as Steven Avery would have at least attempted to wipe up the blatant blood patches.

The key thing is ridiculous. How many times did they actually search that room before it suddenly appeared? They would have gone over the place with a fine-tooth comb the very first time they searched.
 
That's one of my bug bears with it as well. The state argued she was tied up and murdered in Steve Avery's bedroom then dragged his garage and cut up, before being burned. There was not a single drop of blood in any of these locations. To me that is just not possible, given that the defendant is alleged to have slit her throat, stabbed her and then shot her in the head. There would be lots of blood, pints of it, all over the bedding, bed, carpet, etc.

The Key for the car being found in his trailer is dodgy as well, why was it found after several searches, not straight away? Why did it only have Steve Avery's DNA, not the victim's DNA? Why was it only found when Lenk was searching unsupervised?

Steve Avery's blood being found in the car was complete hogwash, there is no way that came from Steve directly, the blood sample from the first case being tampered with proved this, it was found in completely un-natural areas. It was clear from evidence of Teresa's blood and hair being found in the boot of the car that Teresa was killed away from the Avery property and then transferred there.

I thought it was strange that the defense were not allowed to suggest who may have committed the crime. for me there are two possible options;

The victim was receiving harassing phone calls (testimony from a work colleague), this could have been her ex boyfriend, he stayed very close to the investigation all the way through, he also had access to her home, through her room mate and admitted to hacking into her mobile phone online billing by "guessing" her password. He was never questioned by police and never had to provide an alibi to his whereabouts. He also happened to loan a camera to two women who were sent to the Avery scrap yard and found the car. No one else from the search party was given a camera.

Also her Brother seemed a very odd character to me. He put himself in front of the camera's a lot during the investigation and the trial. Whilst the victim was still missing he was interviewed and said something along the lines "hopefully Teressa's body is found soon so the grieving process can begin". It seemed very odd to me like he already knew she was dead. He admitted during the trial that he had hacked into Teresa's voicemail to listen to the messages. The defense called a person from the phone company as a witness who states that voicemail messages were deleted after Teresa's death. Could her brother have deleted incriminating messages? Also I noticed during the sentencing, they played a video of Teresa, in it she mentioned how much she loved her; dad, mom and sisters. No mention of a brother!

I don't believe the police committed the Murder, but I do think they planted evidence to try to ensure a conviction, the Car, the Key, Steve's blood, the bullet. They are all tainted. The Sherriff, Ken Peterson, believes Avery belongs in Jail, he was involved in the first framing in 85 and Lenk and Colburn carried out his orders this time round.


that bullet was proven to have been fired by his gun, but i guess they could have found that elsewhere and planted it
 
yeah so many inconsitencies, am still leaning towards him doing it...its a shame we will prob never find out what actually happend
I reckon we will. If science can't do the EDTA tests now then surely they could in a few years time. If that test proves it was took out the vial and not from his bleeding hand then that's got to prove he was innocent.

If he was innocent then It'll be good if he got out while his parents were still here.
 
I reckon we will. If science can't do the EDTA tests now then surely they could in a few years time. If that test proves it was took out the vial and not from his bleeding hand then that's got to prove he was innocent.

If he was innocent then It'll be good if he got out while his parents were still here.

doesnt PROVE he's innocent but proves police corruption etc which would mean a definite mistrial or whatever
 

He did it, loads of info was not shown in the programme, how he did it is another question.

Like someone said, the police have tried to 'ensure conviction'.

The TV show is all one sided, and designed to make us all believe he is innocent.
 
He did it, loads of info was not shown in the programme, how he did it is another question.

Like someone said, the police have tried to 'ensure conviction'.

The TV show is all one sided, and designed to make us all believe he is innocent.
I don't think any of the evidence left out of the documentary really sways it into the realm of certainty one way or another.

I've seen people respond to what they claim was left out and none of it is the smoking gun.

There's no arguing the doc is one-sided though. I don't even necessarily think the doc is designed to make us believe he is innocent, if it was then it didn't do a great job. What it did do is present a case full of reasonable doubts from questioning the key state evidence which should have been enough to provide a not guilty verdict for both accused.
 
I don't think any of the evidence left out of the documentary really sways it into the realm of certainty one way or another.

I've seen people respond to what they claim was left out and none of it is the smoking gun.

There's no arguing the doc is one-sided though. I don't even necessarily think the doc is designed to make us believe he is innocent, if it was then it didn't do a great job. What it did do is present a case full of reasonable doubts from questioning the key state evidence which should have been enough to provide a not guilty verdict for both accused.


I think the name of the show tells you about its intentions, mate.
 

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