John Stones transfer saga

djsunyc · August 27, 2015

damn...my boy roberto martinez is not just changing lineups...he's changing team culture!

BirkenheadBlue · August 27, 2015

-wizard- said:
cundy will be all over this tonight on talksport. he'll be saying it isnt over till 6pm tuesday, as he rubs his hands with joy. the cretin!

The thought of more of his phone, biased outrage makes me want to vomit.

Horrible, horrible specimen.

Eggs · August 27, 2015

bizzaro said:
Mate. What Kenwright has said today (take it as you will) and Bobby yesterday

Is EXACTLY what theyd said in July.

Not for sale at any price.

Theyve said that to another club. Not just Chelsea.

That other club didn't go public as they understood what was communicated.

...at the beginning of this saga, Mourinho said all EFC had to say was the player is not for sale at any price. My understanding was we did this but Chelsea continued bidding.

davek · August 27, 2015

BirkenheadBlue said:
You have absolutely zero idea what he's saying to him behind closed doors though.

Nothing wrong with the captain making a neutral PUBLIC statement, to attempt to take a bit of the heat/pressure off his 21yr old team mate.

Oh yeah, 'behind closed doors'. He's the captain of Everton employed to speak for the team in the public domain. He did so and presumably they are his feelings on the matter.

Let's put it this way: if it were left to Jagielka rather than Martinez, Stones would be walking around on the Kings Road now shopping for his new 'big club' wardrobe.

Lowste · August 27, 2015

davek said:
Did our glorious leader mention anything about the missing transfer war chest or is that a bit too much for him?

It'd be nice to think we dont need the Stones cash to have a summer spend over and above £5M, but I doubt that's the case.

On this occasion I think we sit back and praise the manager and the board

Praise on this occasion is deserved

Other arguments should be put to one side for the moment and we should be proud in what the club has done and how they have made a moral and financial stand

Minimeister · August 27, 2015

BarryBridges said:
I'm all for Everton doing all they can to keep their player but this is a bit of a ridiculous comparison.

Aside from the fact that Luiz has more starts for the Brazil national team than Stones has for Everton's senior team, one has featured in the finals of, and won, the Champions League, the Europa League, numerous domestic cups and multiple league titles.... and the other has.....?

And Luiz was hugely over priced, so by comparing the two and saying this is why Stones' is worth it kind of undermines your valuation in my opinion.

I'd just say, if I was in your camp, he's 50million cause that's what he is worth to us and we got him on a contract with 4 years left. Simple, and how do you argue that?

I don't think it's ridiculous. Chelsea received that fee for a player recently so it's a good marker. English talent is always vastly overpriced so taking that into account asking them to pay the same they received for Luiz seems the starting point.

bizzaro · August 27, 2015

I expect "EVERTON SHOULD LET JOHN STONES GO TO FURTHER HIS CAREER" all over the press this next 5 days

Everyone knows whats coming next

@davek

deipnosophist · August 27, 2015

davek said:
Did our glorious leader mention anything about the missing transfer war chest or is that a bit too much for him?

It'd be nice to think we dont need the Stones cash to have a summer spend over and above £5M, but I doubt that's the case.

With the reported loan drawdown (finance thread), I suggest 15-20 is coming RM's way

BirkenheadBlue · August 27, 2015

Spadge Vernacular said:
He is 21.

He is English, and

He is brilliant - the best prospect in Europe in his position.

Is that enough for you?

Also, David Luiz cannot defend.

royalblue66 · August 27, 2015

Jim White. SSN " who is to say Chelski won't come back with another offer, this could go to the wire." Bit of promoting your programme there mate, just do one please.

Spadge Vernacular · August 27, 2015

Spadge Vernacular said:
He is 21.

He is English, and

He is brilliant - the best prospect in Europe in his position.

Is that enough for you?

And as you point out has the best part of 5 years on his contract.

Actually, he should go for well more than Luiz if you think about it.

Mutzo Nutzo · August 27, 2015

I for one thought Bill would cave in. I'm proud of my club for their stance here.

BirkenheadBlue · August 27, 2015

davek said:
Oh yeah, 'behind closed doors'. He's the captain of Everton employed to speak for the team in the public domain. He did so and presumably they are his feelings on the matter.

Let's put it this way: if it were left to Jagielka rather than Martinez, Stones would be walking around on the Kings Road now shopping for his new 'big club' wardrobe.

More conjecture, but we do know how you love it. Have fun.

bizzaro · August 27, 2015

Eggs said:
...at the beginning of this saga, Mourinho said all EFC had to say was the player is not for sale at any price. My understanding was we did this but Chelsea continued bidding.

I know that another club inquired. But were told

"Not for sale at any price"

That was in the last month

davek · August 27, 2015

Lowste said:
On this occasion I think we sit back and praise the manager and the board

Praise on this occasion is deserved

Other arguments should be put to one side for the moment and we should be proud in what the club has done and how they have made a moral and financial stand

Not really. I'm looking at this from a season perspective, not the short term buzz of telling Jose et al to swing it.

We have £5M spent this summer.

That's it. Bottom line.

The board deserve nothing more than a boot in the bollocks.