John Stones transfer saga

Tubey · August 18, 2015

chicoazul said:
No not that much you big silly, simmer down.

Well how much then? I can't see how us offering him a deal will make him less likely to join Chelsea - if he wants more money, he'll go to Chelsea.

Dithering Dougie · August 18, 2015

chicoazul said:
I think you're being naive sir.

And I think you just like arguing the toss because you're bored. Sir.

Connor · August 18, 2015

I'd give him the armband on Saturday as a "this is what you mean to us John"

Get more nervous as this window draws to a close that he might actually leave. Rationally, I don't think he will because especially with the 'fan unrest' this board would never live this transfer down.

But they sold Rooney and they'll sell Barkley and anyone worth a bit of dough.

Just show a bit of bottle and DON'T sell Stones FFS.

Alex Hindmarsh · August 18, 2015

This is an arguable comment but, I reckon Stones is one of the best defenders in the prem already and he is arguably irreplaceable for the system we play.

If he goes it's a sad sad day for Everton and no matter what the fee is, we won't get a player anywhere near his level.

D410 · August 18, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
Now come on Sir you know fine well Chelsea can and will be able to pay John Stones more money than we could offer, you will also have seen this scenario being played out countless times before with other players at other clubs. If this was simply about how much John Stones can earn we'd not stand a chance and he would have handed in a transfer request weeks ago, or his agent would have made his position known through the media and they'd have forced a move by now.

The fact that none of this has happened strongly indicates Stones isn't solely driven by how much he earns at the moment and offering an improved contract isn't likely to sway him to stay one way or the other Sir.

It's not about the club swaying a player it's about the club getting past the we will not sell to here's anew contract to reflect your new market value, loyalty and shutting down the whole thing.

BoysInBlue · August 18, 2015

Baines didn't agitate for Utd and got a new 4 year contract 5 months later, Jan 2014.

Dithering Dougie · August 18, 2015

Tubey said:
Well how much then? I can't see how us offering him a deal will make him less likely to join Chelsea - if he wants more money, he'll go to Chelsea.

Chico seems to be under the impression if we waft a bunch of fifties under Stones nose like you do with a dog and treats you can make him forget about the cat on the back wall annoying him.

Not sure it works like that myself.

Furey1878 · August 18, 2015

jagsballs said:
[Poor language removed] is this guy? The "yet to be completely convinced by him" I think is on Chelsea's end.

Azzurri · August 18, 2015

tonka1878 said:
Tell you that did he?

A very good attempt at humour there but obviously the answer is no mate. Did he tell you he wants to stay?

chicoazul · August 18, 2015

Tubey said:
Well how much then? I can't see how us offering him a deal will make him less likely to join Chelsea - if he wants more money, he'll go to Chelsea.

Offer him more than he's earning. Offer him a weekly wage competitive with our important players in the team.

If he wanted the most money he would go to Chelsea. But who doesn't want to earn more money and feel valued by their employer?

longers · August 18, 2015

tonka1878 said:
Tell you that did he?

Being realistic he probably would like the move to go through, that doesn't mean he's unhappy here... If you get offered a better job in terms of both income and prospects you're probably going to want to take it.

chicoazul · August 18, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
Chico seems to be under the impression if we waft a bunch of fifties under Stones nose like you do with a dog and treats you can make him forget about the cat on the back wall annoying him.

Not sure it works like that myself.

That's some paraphrasing there sir.

If you can't understand a basic business concept then what can I do? It's futile really.

Too many of you think with the heart rather than the head.

Saint Domingo · August 18, 2015

jagsballs said:
[Poor language removed] is this guy? The "yet to be completely convinced by him" I think is on Chelsea's end.

I think he's saying that he is not convinced by Stones. Clearly both Chelsea and Everton are. If you don't rate Stones you clearly do not know enough about the game to even pretend to be an ITK.

n01efc · August 18, 2015

Some sensible Chelsea insight here: http://www.theshedend.com/topic/28287-john-stones/page-29?

Dithering Dougie · August 18, 2015

D410 said:
It's not about the club swaying a player it's about the club getting past the we will not sell to here's anew contract to reflect your new market value, loyalty and shutting down the whole thing.

I'm sure it suits both sides not to do any new deal at the moment.

Stones and his agent will no doubt prefer talking about a wage increase after the window has closed and Everton have rejected a £40m+ bid rather than sell themselves short after a £26m bid was rejected.