Martinez IN

sheedys left foot · January 19, 2015

kithnou said:
Clearly this. They can't make a pass in the final third to save themselves. Don't look like scoring in a million years. Players to blame. Not good enough.

Tactics, substitutions, players motivation, honest assessment of performances, player recruitment.

That is ALL down to the manager.

davek · January 19, 2015

AaronTheBlue said:
yeah rebuild with a new manager.

That's really not happening.

We have a manager with a new contract and he'll be here for the next few seasons.

I know there's a few of you feel this way - that you want the manager sacked, but lads: it isn't happeniong. Not a chance. Do yourselves a favour and drop it. The project you have going is doomed.

Toffeelover · January 19, 2015

Allezfan said:
He's kept worse teams than this up in relegation dogfights before.

Ultimately failed.

kithnou · January 19, 2015

Cmon guys. Was Mart

sheedys left foot said:
Tactics, substitutions, players motivation, honest assessment of performances, player recruitment.

That is ALL down to the manager.

I have been banging on about that for a while. My biggest concern with him.
But is it his fault they can't play a forward pass or make a cross into the box to save themselves at the moment? Players need to go first. Not good enough.

Allezfan · January 19, 2015

davek said:
As I said, rough with the smooth. We had paradise last season in footy and results; this year is purgatory.

Last season was pretty nice, like.

But we only came 5th, didn't win a derby and got knocked out of both cups before the semis. It was a good season but I'd hoped it was a first step on our path back to greatness, not a pinacle we couldn't match again.

I mean martinez has to stay, no two ways about it. But I hope he has more paradise to offer us than 5th place.

edge · January 19, 2015

we are deep in it , this is yet again a bad performance same as all the rest this year, we are to easy to play agaist, well sussed, out thought again, Barkley is being ruined before your eyes, and dont let the mirralles bollocks cloud what has just gone on, we are in the [Poor language removed], either back him with a few players, or get shut.
this fella isnt up to keeping us up if we are around it at the bottom come march.

dannyboy · January 19, 2015

This is awful from Martinez. There's times when you need to say it was bang out of order, we draw a line under it and move on.

Allezfan · January 19, 2015

Toffeelover said:
Ultimately failed.

If we finish in the bottom 6 three seasons in a row, I'll agree he shouldn't get a 4th season given his prior track record in that situation.

Toffeelover · January 19, 2015

davek said:
That's really not happening.

We have a manager with a new contract and he'll be here for the next few seasons.

I know there's a few of you feel this way - that you want the manager sacked, but lads: it isn't happeniong. Not a chance. Do yourselves a favour and drop it. The project you have going is doomed.

Keep playing the Martinez way Dave and the club is doomed, dreading the next few seasons if he is still here based on this. Seems to have no idea at all. Need a new bloke now with a different mindset to get a grip..

Cork Evertonian · January 19, 2015

Martinez out im afraid.We need to put Sheeds and Big Dunc in charge asap until the end of the season.This team didn't show fight or passion tonight.

sheedys left foot · January 19, 2015

The Martinez effect has well and truly kicked in.

It's glaringly obvious that he was riding on the crest of moors defensive work last season.

Allezfan · January 19, 2015

kithnou said:
But is it his fault they can't play a forward pass or make a cross into the box to save themselves at the moment?

He was given credit for it when they could do those things last year.

Toffeelover · January 19, 2015

Allezfan said:
If we finish in the bottom 6 three seasons in a row, I'll agree he shouldn't get a 4th season given his prior track record in that situation.

Do you want the next 3 seasons to be like this. There are fans out there paying hundreds supporting the club and this dross is served up and you don't mind for the next 3 seasons!

kithnou · January 19, 2015

Allezfan said:
He was given credit for it when they could do those things last year.

so you agree it falls to the players then

Allezfan · January 19, 2015

Toffeelover said:
Do you want the next 3 seasons to be like this. There are fans out there paying hundreds supporting the club and this dross is served up and you don't mind for the next 3 seasons!

No, I'd sack him in november if he hasn't improved by then.

I just think he will which is why he should get until november to prove one of us right.