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Liverpool City Centre will suffer, Grosvenor tells Everton inquiry - Liverpool Daily Post.co.uk

Liverpool City Centre will suffer, Grosvenor tells Everton inquiry


LIVERPOOL’S new £1bn shopping development will not be significantly affected if Everton FC and Tesco’s plans go ahead in Kirkby, according to its owners.
But Graham Stock, representing Liverpool One developers Grosvenor, told the public inquiry into Destination Kirkby yesterday that the rest of Liverpool city centre would suffer a dramatic impact at a very bad time.
He said: “The inappropriately large scale of development proposed for Kirkby will have arguably one of its greatest negative effects upon Liverpool City Centre.”
This, he said, was against regional planning policies which put “Liverpool at the pinnacle of the retail hierarchy, and at the top of the list of priorities for investment.”
If the scheme goes ahead Kirkby will go from having 20,000 sqm to some 70,000 sqm of retail.
Mr Stock said: “It is inconceivable that such a step change in provision of retail floorspace would not have serious effects upon retail patterns just at a time when Liverpool city centre has received the long-awaited investment that it requires in order to safeguard and enhance its future health and vitality.”
This is unacceptable, he said, when you consider that this is “one scheme in one small town centre”.
Patrick Clarkson, QC for Everton and Tesco, returned to some evidence supplied earlier in the inquiry which claimed Liverpool One would not suffer.
Mr Stock confirmed that he did not think Liverpool One was at risk as a result of these proposals.
But he told planning inspector Wendy Burden that money that should have been spent in Liverpool as a result of his company’s investment would now be “clawed back” – spent elsewhere.
As a result the massive attempts Liverpool City Council and Grosvenor had made to restore Liverpool “to its rightful place in the retail hierarchy” would be hampered.
He said the current economic downturn meant there should be caution in agreeing more retail floor space as it would be even more difficult to secure the required turnover.

Unacceptable? Yeah, Everton the cheeky gits. How dare they.
 

What Stock means is he will not be able to make as much money if the scheme got the go ahead.

Nothing to do with Everton getting a new stadium just Grosvenor losing money.
 
Screw LCC, screw the [Poor language removed], screw everyone. Lets go with my plan.

Yellow is reclaimed 'Green land' and blue is the new home of the Mighty Blues

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Anyone disagree???? :P
 
Despite what Grosvenor's man says about it affecting Liverpool City centre and not L1, he's bound to say that. How could the clothing retail sector at L1 not be affected by another giant development, but the city centre 200 yards away will be?

His main point was about too much retail chasing too little £/€ leading to partial take up of units being let. He's right too, and from what I can gather it as a point impressed on the Inspector.
 
Despite what Grosvenor's man says about it affecting Liverpool City centre and not L1, he's bound to say that. How could the clothing retail sector at L1 not be affected by another giant development, but the city centre 200 yards away will be?

His main point was about too much retail chasing too little £/€ leading to partial take up of units being let. He's right too, and from what I can gather it as a point impressed on the Inspector.

You want to go to Mersey Retail Pk in Speke, that doesnt seem to suffer and its closer
 

I'm not comfortable building a stadium in a cemetry Dylan!

Wasn't Speke retail park a contributing reason to the decline in the city centre? It's probably being argued that Grosvenor's development has attempted to fix that.
 
I'm not comfortable building a stadium in a cemetry Dylan!

Wasn't Speke retail park a contributing reason to the decline in the city centre? It's probably being argued that Grosvenor's development has attempted to fix that.

Building it in someone's back garden is a bit [Poor language removed] too. I feel sorry for those residents if this monstrosity ever comes off.

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Building it in someone's back garden is a bit [Poor language removed] too. I feel sorry for those residents if this monstrosity ever comes off.

So you dont want a new ground in the middle of nowhere, 'Boro/Reebok sytle.

You dont want a ground built next to houses.

Tell us Dave, where do you want the bloody thing :P:lol::lol:

I'm one of those residents by the way, - Dont feel sorry for us, I have yet to come across a local who doesnt want the ground here.
 
So you dont want a new ground in the middle of nowhere, 'Boro/Reebok sytle.

You dont want a ground built next to houses.

Tell us Dave, where do you want the bloody thing :P:lol::lol:.

Well, I'm of the opinion we can put another tier on the Park End and take it up to nearly 50,000 with no bother to existing tenants...tenants who knew they were moving into an area with a stadium in it by the way...a crucial difference to what's proposed for Kirkby. The Scotland Road site would be on the Bestway footprint. The nearest residents would be around the near all-tinned up area around Juvenal Street as gar as I can make out.

I'm one of those residents by the way, - Dont feel sorry for us, I have yet to come across a local who doesnt want the ground here.

You live in one of the houses threatened with a CPO or would lose light by the erection of this thing?

By the way, thousands registered their objections to the stadium and a political group formed 1 month before the local elections polled almost as many as the Labour Party. Maybe they dont like to upset you and keep their thought's to themselves? :D
 

No one should own a house like these people and then have some desperate and clueless local council and a supermarket chain drop this onto them:

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