Loan watch

ijjysmith · January 10, 2014

Groucho said:
And this is where Vellios has let himself down - refusing to go out temporarily on loan.

True that mate.

jackyboy · January 10, 2014

Do people on here rate Vellios?

Timak · January 10, 2014

ijjysmith said:
It's definitely a Martinez thing isn't it?

I mean this should always have been the way. Young players, who aren't quite ready for the first team, sent out for proper competition first team games. Can't beat that for prep.

Can't really understand why we didn't do it too much before.

In the last 18 months of Moyes we loaned out:
Barkley x 2
Duffy
Lundstram
McAleny
Garbutt
Gueye
Wallace
Forshaw
Bidwell
Nsiala
Orengua
Baxter

ijjysmith · January 10, 2014

Timak said:
In the last 18 months of Moyes we loaned out:
Barkley x 2
Duffy
Lundstram
McAleny
Garbutt
Gueye
Wallace
Forshaw
Bidwell
Nsiala
Orengua
Baxter

It just feels different alright.

I got Schooled

AaronTheBlue · January 10, 2014

Vellios had potential to be a good squad player with us for some years. Even Martinez said so himself, just a shame he wouldn't go out on loan. Maybe he will have changed his mind by now.

AaronTheBlue · January 10, 2014

Browning going to wigan

Bruce Wayne · January 10, 2014

AaronTheBlue said:
Browning going to wigan

That would be good. Looking at the reserve stats, the only players who have played a decent number of games that haven't gone out on loan are:

- Jonjoe Kenny
- Ibou Toray
- Conor Grant

AaronTheBlue · January 10, 2014

if it wasn't for injury i suspect Grant would've been out on loan too

bluejock · January 10, 2014

AaronTheBlue said:
Browning going to wigan

That's a really good loan for him, and us.

caught · January 10, 2014

AaronTheBlue said:
if it wasn't for injury i suspect Grant would've been out on loan too

Was it him that looked really sharp in the first few pre-season games? The OS says he's a winger but he looked more of a CM to me.

Kenny's only 16 so it's to his credit that he's played so often for the U21s this season.

AaronTheBlue · January 10, 2014

caught said:
Was it him that looked really sharp in the first few pre-season games? The OS says he's a winger but he looked more of a CM to me.

Kenny's only 16 so it's to his credit that he's played so often for the U21s this season.

Yep. He played cm for us in pre season and looked decent.

mightymoyes · January 10, 2014

happy days if browning is going to the championship. was hoping a few of the others would be playing higher up.

kevdotbadger · January 10, 2014

Martinez said the reserve league isn't good enough for youth development and I completely agree. Sending the youngsters out to the conference, L2 or L1 where there's competitive football going on will certainly help them rather than playing in a league where no one really cares if they win or lose.

Maybe Martinez will sell a loan to Vellios better than Moyes.

SteKelly · January 10, 2014

ijjysmith said:
It's definitely a Martinez thing isn't it?

I mean this should always have been the way. Young players, who aren't quite ready for the first team, sent out for proper competition first team games. Can't beat that for prep.

Can't really understand why we didn't do it too much before. The likes of Barkley and Coleman had good spells out, Coleman especially, but it's great to see so many out at the moment.

I was even a little bit proud when Hope scored at the weekend. Past NEWPORT COUNTY.

Its the way it should be. They learn nothing in Under21 Development league its ridiculous. I still think they should invent Everton B, Chelsea B and so on

Bruce Wayne · January 10, 2014

SteKelly said:
Its the way it should be. They learn nothing in Under21 Development league its ridiculous. I still think they should invent Everton B, Chelsea B and so on

I doubt that will ever happen formally, but there's no reason why it couldn't happen informally? I mean take Tranmere for instance. The club could easily strike up a partnership with them whereby Tranmere benefit from our coaching expertise (The Everton Way), maybe even use our facilities now and then.

That would ensure that Tranmere play in a way that educates our kids in the right way. We'd then make sure as many of our youngsters go there on loan as possible. Likewise, if Tranmere ever get any good kids on their books, they'd have a good route to the Premier League through us.

Could even use this for coach development as well, sending people doing their coaching qualifications to our partner clubs to get experience in professional environments.

Do that with a couple of clubs and you'd have as good as a B team in the lower leagues.