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[Jamo Martinez]

Didn't Mussolini say something about fascism being the marriage of the state with big corporations. Seems to fit.

 

[tsubaki]

I think it's pretty much the case these industrialists - terrified more by Communism than Nazism - were fellow travelers by the mid-30s. Many (like Hugo Boss) were devoted followers and party members.

and then you have IBM, who just wanted the money

 

[Pat's Van]

I've got to do some pizza shopping today, think I'll just go with Tesco's own.

Good job Tesco aren't Nazis.

 

[Eville101]

I've got to do some pizza shopping today, think I'll just go with Tesco's own.

Good job Tesco aren't Nazis.

Tesco are owned by the Jews, so you're on safe ground there. "Phew, what?"

 

[davek]

and then you have IBM, who just wanted the money

Yeah, that was clearly a case of chasing dollars rather than any ideological motivation. I dare say IBM would have seized on any opportunity to set up the bureaucratic machinery of any type of regime. That said, there's blood on their hands.

 

[Eville101]

There were germans that opposed the Reich and everything they stood for, but the model used by the Nazis was scaremongering, scapegoating, state propaganda from a compliant media and economic turmoil. People were scared to be singled out, all at the bottom of ladder of course, those in control at the top knew exactly who they were dealing with and what was going on, the plan couldn't have existed without their tacit support.

All too familiar because the same tactics are used in this country today.

Niemoller was (as accredited) all too right with his prose...

I did that tour a few years back. I went in feeling sorry the Jews who were killed there, I came out not so bothered. I was basically made to feel like a 2nd class citizen from the staff and visitors because I was not a Jew. I heard nothing but anti-German propaganda throughout the tour. I don't particularly like Germans TBH, I think they are dour f**kers - but some of the garbage spewed was uncalled for. About 30% of Germans in the 30's were against Hitlers war on Jews. And many Germans today are disgusted what their grandparents supported. But many secretly admired it, to this day. It's not fair to target the millions of Germans who were anti Jew genocide (no matter how boring and dour they are) for propaganda reasons. When I see what the Israeli does in Palestine, pot calling kettle black springs to mind. They should learn from history.

 

[magicjuan]

I did that tour a few years back. I went in feeling sorry the Jews who were killed there, I came out not so bothered. I was basically made to feel like a 2nd class citizen from the staff and visitors because I was not a Jew. I heard nothing but anti-German propaganda throughout the tour. I don't particularly like Germans TBH, I think they are dour f**kers - but some of the garbage spewed was uncalled for. About 30% of Germans in the 30's were against Hitlers war on Jews. And many Germans today are disgusted what their grandparents supported. But many secretly admired it, to this day. It's not fair to target the millions of Germans who were anti Jew genocide (no matter how boring and dour they are) for propaganda reasons. When I see what the Israeli does in Palestine, pot calling kettle black springs to mind. They should learn from history.

There is an industry, with a dishonesty, intent on perpetuating the blame game on Germans in general, and as much as the holocaust was a heinous moment in mankind's history, far worse genocides and atrocities have occurred since and still do so, yet don't warrant a fraction of the attention or seeking of culpability on those who carry them out.

Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Galtieri etc all in one way or another had support from the UK and US, there are many many more..

 

[Eville101]

There is an industry, with a dishonesty, intent on perpetuating the blame game on Germans in general, and as much as the holocaust was a heinous moment in mankind's history, far worse genocides and atrocities have occurred since and still do so, yet don't warrant a fraction of the attention or seeking of culpability on those who carry them out.

Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Galtieri etc all in one way or another had support from the UK and US, there are many many more..

IMO the Germans are a bunch of untrustworthy pricks. But, the Nazi's were no different to any other conquering races. The Brits for example have serious blood on their hands, a lot worse than the Nazi's. But then the Zionist propaganda machine kicks in, doesn't it? Controlled media. Like Churchill had nothing to do with the partitioning of Palestine (ahem, genocide) supported by American interest. I don't give two f**ks who does what, mankind is on a suicide mission anyway - but a tad of Zionist free, free thought would be nice. Let's cut the Nazi's some slack. Mein Kampf, written by a mad man actually makes sense in a lot of ways. I don't condone mass murder, which the Nazi's were a dot on the horizon compared to Ghengis, the Romans, the Brits, the French (before they lost their balls and surrendered like little pussies at the first sign of trouble) and so on. Jew controlled media states 6m were killed in Auschwitz. Funny that with only 6 working ovens, and less than 4 million Juden resided in Europe in a census taken in 1932. The majority of killings in the death factory was Russian and Slavic, but that goes unnoticed, and history is left to preach a blatant lie.

 

[magicjuan]

IMO the Germans are a bunch of untrustworthy pricks. But, the Nazi's were no different to any other conquering races. The Brits for example have serious blood on their hands, a lot worse than the Nazi's. But then the Zionist propaganda machine kicks in, doesn't it? Controlled media. Like Churchill had nothing to do with the partitioning of Palestine (ahem, genocide) supported by American interest. I don't give two f**ks who does what, mankind is on a suicide mission anyway - but a tad of Zionist free, free thought would be nice. Let's cut the Nazi's some slack. Mein Kampf, written by a mad man actually makes sense in a lot of ways. I don't condone mass murder, which the Nazi's were a dot on the horizon compared to Ghengis, the Romans, the Brits, the French (before they lost their balls and surrendered like little pussies at the first sign of trouble) and so on. Jew controlled media states 6m were killed in Auschwitz. Funny that with only 6 working ovens, and less than 4 million Juden resided in Europe in a census taken in 1932. The majority of killings in the death factory was Russian and Slavic, but that goes unnoticed, and history is left to preach a blatant lie.

I understand which direction you are heading, but fear you have confused Zionism for Judaism, not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. The situation has no religious persuasion, just an agenda to manitain an everpresent powerful elite that keeps the majority of wealth under the control of a minority.

Always thought that if the word goyim had not been written into the protocols how many more people would be able to accept it as workable and working as opposed to it being dismissed as a forgery and part of an anti semitic campaign, ironically anti semitism applies more to the palestinians historically than judaens and tge term itself is used not in political discussion but to whip up a hysteria to deny debate about uncomfortable subjects.

 

[Blue 1]

IMO the Germans are a bunch of untrustworthy pricks. But, the Nazi's were no different to any other conquering races. The Brits for example have serious blood on their hands, a lot worse than the Nazi's. But then the Zionist propaganda machine kicks in, doesn't it? Controlled media. Like Churchill had nothing to do with the partitioning of Palestine (ahem, genocide) supported by American interest. I don't give two f**ks who does what, mankind is on a suicide mission anyway - but a tad of Zionist free, free thought would be nice. Let's cut the Nazi's some slack. Mein Kampf, written by a mad man actually makes sense in a lot of ways. I don't condone mass murder, which the Nazi's were a dot on the horizon compared to Ghengis, the Romans, the Brits, the French (before they lost their balls and surrendered like little pussies at the first sign of trouble) and so on. Jew controlled media states 6m were killed in Auschwitz. Funny that with only 6 working ovens, and less than 4 million Juden resided in Europe in a census taken in 1932. The majority of killings in the death factory was Russian and Slavic, but that goes unnoticed, and history is left to preach a blatant lie.

Wow. Not had holocaust denial on here before, have we?

 

[Degs62]

WOW, what have I just read???

Whole thread seems to be missing the point that the Nazi party was just a political organisation at the beginning, once they started to gain power that was when the world domination started to creep in. Many people and organisations would have signed up in the beginning because their party manifesto was offering a better life for them and their families. Once the world domination aspect kicked in many would have stayed loyal out of fear for their lives and family. Without going back through the morals and scruples of the members of these organisations that provided services to the regime I am willing to bet most of it was motivated by either the profit margin or threats of harm to the company/families.

 

[Degs62]

Wow. Not had holocaust denial on here before, have we?

Read the post you muppet it wasn't holocaust denial.

 

[Blue 1]

Jew controlled media states 6m were killed in Auschwitz. Funny that with only 6 working ovens, and less than 4 million Juden resided in Europe in a census taken in 1932. The majority of killings in the death factory was Russian and Slavic, but that goes unnoticed, and history is left to preach a blatant lie.

Read the post you muppet it wasn't holocaust denial.

Sorry if I missed something, but can you explain to me how's that not holocaust denial?

It's pretty much the exact argument used by pretty much every holocaust denier ever.

 

[Degs62]

Sorry if I missed something, but can you explain to me how's that not holocaust denial?

It's pretty much the exact argument used by pretty much every holocaust denier ever.

He's not saying there wasn't a human genocide he's just pointing out that the majority of murders committed were Russian and Slavic and not just Jews. Not sure how that can be holocaust denial. Read what's posted and not just what you want for your own agenda.

 

[Blue 1]

He's not saying there wasn't a human genocide he's just pointing out that the majority of murders committed were Russian and Slavic and not just Jews. Not sure how that can be holocaust denial. Read what's posted and not just what you want for your own agenda.

I know what he's saying.

You know the term "holocaust" in this context refers to the genocide of around six million Jews, right? Which our friend here has said didn't happen i.e. the victims weren't Jewish, and only exists in the history books because of the "Jewish controlled media" because "the numbers don't add up".

This has been debunked both far and wide and is the stock in trade argument of pretty much every prominent holocaust denier there's ever been.