minimum 5th gets Europe...can we make it?

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Given that they can look rudderless with him in the side, they would have major problems if thats true.

Not at all. Wilshere is a nice ball carrier. But its Cazorla who is the real creator and main man in our midfield. Wilshere is very good talent, but his importance to Arsenal is very overrated at this point. He has had 3-4 great games for us this season. But most games he has been average and never gets called on it.
 
Chelsea v Rubin Kazan.

Tottenham v Basel.

Fenerbahce v Lazio.

Benfica v Newcastle.

English team to win Europa - does that create extra place in the league?
 

This rule will forever confuse me

It's really pretty simple.

If the winners of the Europa League already qualify for European competition via their domestic league or by winning a domestic cup then nothing happens. The only time an extra place is created is if the winning team doesn't qualify for Europe already.

There is no extra place EVER granted to the league as a whole, only to the winning team, regardless of if they finish 7th or 20th.
 

As I was saying after the wigan defeat we can still make fourth.

We win our next 89 games and we'll be champions too next season, for sure.
 
Very likely not and while I would enjoy Everton in Europa I'm not sure if we'd be better off if we'd instead just get rid of Moyes, get some ok players with the Fellaini money and try to achieve CL with a decent manager.
 
omg ffs why is 4th place out of our reach. it's totally not. we have it in our own hands, we have chelsea, spurs and arsenal to play. we can do this.

moyes is sexy after today lets just hope he stays sexy after the 90 mins vs stoke.
 

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