hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
There's a difference between getting a draw and playing for a draw. If you play for a draw you usually lose.
Never coming to us right now sadly.
I'm gonna keep saying the name Iñigo Perez so I look cool when he's a huge success somewhere. Hopefully here.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
I dont think anyone will be disappointed lol. We used to get this sh!t in the calvert lewin thread. Doesnt score for 6 months. Bags one. And you've got posters going where are you now dom haters
I think Evertonians are just so used to the drill now at so many grounds. We literally had it already this season. Went to Anfield. Payed them far to much respect. By time we woke up and realised they werent all that the ship had sailed.
At least 5 or 6 away games every season you can more or less write the script with Everton before KO.
badloaf
Player Valuation: £6m
Moyes is (currently) one of our biggest assets, as evidenced by the impact he had coming in last year, but he’s also one of our biggest handicaps because of his ‘too much respect’ attitude to the supposedly big clubs.I dont think anyone will be disappointed lol. We used to get this sh!t in the calvert lewin thread. Doesnt score for 6 months. Bags one. And you've got posters going where are you now dom haters
I think Evertonians are just so used to the drill now at so many grounds. We literally had it already this season. Went to Anfield. Payed them far to much respect. By time we woke up and realised they werent all that the ship had sailed.
At least 5 or 6 away games every season you can more or less write the script with Everton before KO.
I don’t think it’s coincidence that his track record of away games at these clubs is poor, even when his teams are in a good run of form.
I’m still hoping for us to cane them tonight but, like you say, the team needs to recognise they’re not up against the greatest and get stuck into them to rattle them early doors, otherwise we’ll have left it too late again.
Still, things are so much better than they were this time last year so I’m not feeling too miserable about it.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yeah. He got Forest to within a few points of a CL place last season too.
This league is nothing to write home about and hasn't been for years.
People on here handing out free passes to Moyes to finish about mid-table really need to acknowledge just how easy it is for a good manager to get a European place never mind a top ten spot.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
Said many times, I find our fans the most placid, ambitionless bunch of know-their-place merchants in the league. I live down south and small clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth and their fans have far more get up and go than our lot do. We have a great new stadium and we should be matching it on the pitch but far too many are still happy to just go to the match and have a pint and providing they get that they don't care, there are still massive mentality hangovers from the Kenwright era imo.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Spot on mate. Anyone who advocates something better are pilloried for it.
Some point sometime soon, being in that new stadium just isn't going to cut it.
Managers like Moyes are not good enough for where we need to be going and anyone with half a clue knows it.
“ I always thought when I took the job that it wouldn’t be able to be fixed quickly,” he said. “I saw not long after I went in that it was going to take a bit of time ''
From today's Guardian , Moyes talking about when he went to Man U . Could equally have been talking about Everton today .
From today's Guardian , Moyes talking about when he went to Man U . Could equally have been talking about Everton today .
I'm not focusing on one result. I want to see Everton win everywhere. We can't go to places like Anfield and Old Trafford and win with this manager in charge. He can't do it, he has a complex. We'll never win a trophy under him, again, he has a complex and can't inspire his team to win on big occasions.
I understand why they appointed him in January. But he can't stay on as our manager after this season because we're wasting our time.
The new owners need to find a good, young manager that will move Everton forward. I know it isn't easy but just because we made terrible appointments with Moshiri in charge doesn't mean the new owners should plod along being happy with finishing midtable. Benitez, Lampard and Dyche were terrible appointments and that should never have happened. But you can't let it cloud your judgement and think we should just keep Moyes on forever.
The new stadium will only be a draw for so long. Eventually there'll be hundreds of, if not thousands, empty seats because people are bored. Even the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth play football that is far more entertaining than us.
That's before I even get started on our extremely questionable transfer business this Summer.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
They literally won the league the season before he went there!
Age vs Moyes
Not Armstrong v Moyes
If the club want to bring in younger players and he refuses to buck his trends, than it can only go one way.
Young players are looked at as future investment, that investment has to be allowed to pay off eventually.
A manager really is just a 'Now' manager, whatever their name is.
Moyes will be left to have his own ideas aslong as they are working, but his ideas will still have to be inline with the clubs plans.
I expect he's already loving what he's seeing in Armstrong.
It goes in Roundabouts mate. you have one group that expect overnight success, one group that want to see actual progression but not at the cost of falling straight back into the same hole we've been digging ourselves out of for years now.
Some expectations are realistic, some are from a fantasy land that doesn't exist.
Moyes has the season, than look at the Progression vs Expectation.
I'm sure most people would agree on that part.
If we win someone should order a Moyes a cake because it will be a milestone moment, first win at Old Trafford
I keep ragging on Moyes for not having a single win at Old Trafford in his entire career, which I feel is justified. I get that even as their dominance has faded, winning at Old Trafford can be a tricky place and it's understandable to not have a sterling record there, but not one single win? Come on man get out of your head and break the cycle you anxious lad
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