So much utter dung in this thread.
No, it's not what I was referring to.I knew you would say that, but what you dont realise is that only praises Moyes, cos what you are saying is that in only 12months he has transformed this Club with the results he got and the players he has brought in.
So yes, I agree with you, In Moyes We Trust.
This is exactly the problem with teams playing them, managers are scared to from the start, so Liverpool jump on that and throw everything at them straight from the off, once a good break in play comes, teams start getting to grips with them but are already behind. The media naturally just question why Liverpool don't carry on their leads, instead of seeing that teams are getting back in it cos Liverpool have blown out of there asses for the first 30mins when teams aren't prepared for it..The ironic aspect is when Moyes opted to actually engage with Liverpool in the second half we did quite well it was when we sat back like dyche and tried to launch balls up the pitch, Everton looked woeful
He probably will be gone in 9 months, 18 months is the average time most PL managers remain in the job.No, it's not what I was referring to.
He's played a small part in stabilising the club by getting us mathematically certain of PL status last season in double quick time.
However, the difference I talk about is the sense of Everton becoming a big club again. That's down to the new stadium, the new owners who look prepared to invest in the team, and the players brought in so far.
I'd say about 90% of Everton fans now believe we've found our way out of a deep dark cave and we've emerged into sunlight again. We cant turn back now and we want to get to the next level ASAP. Anyone viewed as holding that back wont last long at this club now, and the fans will push them to act quickly on getting success.
If Moyes can bring that step change: fine.
I suspect he cant though because you need the type of boldness that he doesn't possess.
Gone in 9 months time, I suspect.
When we had Moyes the first time, I wanted him gone towards the end as he had reached the end of his shelf life. If we can get to that stability again then we should be having that conversation, but he hasn't been here 12 months yet, we need a couple of seasons of slow growth and building a team capable of challenging for honours, and then the lookout for an upgrade should be seriously considered. At the moment, Moyes is the perfect man for the role.It’s not as binary as that, circumstances have changed haven’t they?
It’s not about individual poster’s opinions, it’s the reality of the ownership now. Moshiri in his endgame just wanted someone to keep us in the league on a sell to profit model whilst he sold the club. He couldn’t afford to sack Dyche even if he’d wanted to. Hence why half the debate was completely pointless, the reality was he wasn’t going anywhere pre takeover and he was immediately leaving post takeover.
The reality now is the Friedkins will want to see their assets appreciate. Moyes has 2 seasons on his contract. I’m a big Moyes fan for what he did here the first time but it’s not completely wild of me to posit that he’ll have to break some of those previous glass ceilings to earn a new contract. It’s not that wild a take.
They definitely took their foot off the gas in the second. We were a bit more rattled than we should have been though. Grealish had a few clumsy moments as well to start and we were just hoofing it for the sake of hoofing it. As long as we have Jack healthy, I think we have to be a little more willing to play footy.Wish people would stop chatting nonsense. Liverpool went at it full intensity first half to snatch a lead. They couldn’t maintain such a high energy style for the full match.
I don’t think it’s as simple as that if we had gone more aggressive early that we would have gotten a better result. Had we been more open it could have given them more opportunities. Their pressing was excellent in that first half.
Against Pep's city clubs I always felt like the best option is to sit back and counter them (if you have pace). Liverpool since klopp has never been this way. They just cut sides who sit back to shreds.This is exactly the problem with teams playing them, managers are scared to from the start, so Liverpool jump on that and throw everything at them straight from the off, once a good break in play comes, teams start getting to grips with them but are already behind. The media naturally just question why Liverpool don't carry on their leads, instead of seeing that teams are getting back in it cos Liverpool have blown out of there asses for the first 30mins when teams aren't prepared for it..
That second half we killed it, like other teams have, I think they set themselves up to go straight at it from the off.
You'd think managers would have picked up on it by now..
( in previous years they were completely opposite, they would go behind and then come back in to it 2nd half, its like their a 45 minute team )
I assume you are as positive about the new ownership as this in the Friedkin thread?No, it's not what I was referring to.
He's played a small part in stabilising the club by getting us mathematically certain of PL status last season in double quick time.
However, the difference I talk about is the sense of Everton becoming a big club again. That's down to the new stadium, the new owners who look prepared to invest in the team, and the players brought in so far.
I'd say about 90% of Everton fans now believe we've found our way out of a deep dark cave and we've emerged into sunlight again. We cant turn back now and we want to get to the next level ASAP. Anyone viewed as holding that back wont last long at this club now, and the fans will push them to act quickly on getting success.
If Moyes can bring that step change: fine.
I suspect he cant though because you need the type of boldness that he doesn't possess.
Gone in 9 months time, I suspect.
People are questioning the absence of hope in this kind of games when the result is known before and surrender is accepted…A 2-1 loss away at by far the best team in the country is a strange time to start questioning the manager.
No one likes losing to them but they are much better than us and almost everyone else.
Were 6th in the table since he joined btw.No, it's not what I was referring to.
He's played a small part in stabilising the club by getting us mathematically certain of PL status last season in double quick time.
However, the difference I talk about is the sense of Everton becoming a big club again. That's down to the new stadium, the new owners who look prepared to invest in the team, and the players brought in so far.
I'd say about 90% of Everton fans now believe we've found our way out of a deep dark cave and we've emerged into sunlight again. We cant turn back now and we want to get to the next level ASAP. Anyone viewed as holding that back wont last long at this club now, and the fans will push them to act quickly on getting success.
If Moyes can bring that step change: fine.
I suspect he cant though because you need the type of boldness that he doesn't possess.
Gone in 9 months time, I suspect.