New Everton Stadium


mightymoyes said:
I went to the the nfl game there last October and it was the exact same so nothing to do with the time or the marathon.
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I've been to Spurs a few times (by coach and train) and have had no problems really. Of course the other major difference is that the boxing and NFL games will involve a lot of people who are not that familiar with the stadium nor the locality....plus the boxing had a bigger capacity than for football. Those events may have also attracted more people in cars than usual, leading to more congestion than for a normal Spurs match.
 
Tom Hughes said:
If you're trying to make direct comparisons, being "literal" is probably the way to go tbh.

I get what Charlie is saying. Since the Taylor Report, apart from the disabled viewing areas and a few cosmetic touches, Goodison has had literally the least spent on it of ALL premier and football league clubs in the country. Even some tiny football clubs in the conference have spent more on their stadia than we have on GP. Just one very basic stand (Park End) was added in all that time (even that was partly funded by a grant). So, in summary it is a 100 year old Leitch double-decker stand, another almost 90 year old Leitch double decker stand, plus a 55 yr old triple decker stand....... albeit classic british football stadium architecture, versus a brand new £750m stadium, a bit of an unfair comparison IMO.

However, what Goodison has in spades is character and history. On that score, it wipes the floor with any ground in the country, hence the many plaudits that it has been receiving from all commentators and the media throughout its final season. Let's not forget that Goodison was comfortably the finest stadium in the country..... literally for generations! It was that good, that it was the automatic choice for a world cup semi-final in 66 (despite fortunes being spent on new cantilever stands at both Old Trafford and Hillsborough). Even going into the Premier era, GP required the least investment of all stadia to be fully compliant with the Taylor Report, and still yield a 40k capacity, such was its inherent quality. Needless to say, our board lived up to the club's new adopted motto of Nil satis nisi minimum..... and did the absolute bare minimum, while all around us invested and rebuilt for the future.

Someone asked for a practical comparison of one thing that is better at GP, well for one, a good unobstructed view in any of its upper tiers will not be bettered at BMD for combined viewing distance and viewing aspect ratio. Not bad for a stadium designed all those years ago, by someone who had never even heard of c-values.

Of course, if we are going to be totally fair and impartial, perhaps a far better comparison would have been with what Goodison could have been with anything from £150m-£750m+ spent on it. We were never shown those possibilities at any point..... but suffice to say, at anything close to that maximum outlay, I doubt very much that we would've been looking at just 52k seats and 20 exec boxes, not to mention the potential for more "affordable" seats due to the cost savings of redevelopment (yes, we need cheap seats too). How clear cut would the comparison be with say a 60k Goodison, with 6k corporate and 50 boxes for £250m or perhaps a 70k Stadium with 8k corporate, 80 boxes and closing roof etc for say £350-500m?

That's before you go into the debt that nearly wiped us out completely in the process, made one billionaire owner have to sell-up (at a massive loss) before it was even finished and bankrupted (thankfully) one potential carpet-bagging new owner at the same time.

It is also before we even consider the transport issues that we're still yet to experience in their fullness, while GP still has a good dispersal time rating, and would be given planning permission for 60k+ capacity, without any major transport investment required.

All that said, I suppose "all's well that ends well....?" 😉
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Literally lost me at Taylor Report
 

Tom Hughes said:
You mean the report that "Literally" prompted/impacted all the stadium developments in the UK since it was published?
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Yeah, you say that like I should care?? I think you may have missed my point I simply said that comparing Goodison to BMD was logical. And it is!

Your response was anal and whilst I’m sure had a lot of great points, it bored me to death. Apologies!
 
jaybx1878 said:
Fulham Broadway was closed after our game on Saturday due to a power cut so we had to walk to Earls Court and get on the Piccadilly line.
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Same but got on a stop earlier at West Brompton, lovely walk, perhaps a mile long, through a mahoosive cemetery.
But even then, there was chelski fans already on the tube, so presumably they went further down and got on at parsons green
 

Tom Hughes said:
I've been to Spurs a few times (by coach and train) and have had no problems really. Of course the other major difference is that the boxing and NFL games will involve a lot of people who are not that familiar with the stadium nor the locality....plus the boxing had a bigger capacity than for football. Those events may have also attracted more people in cars than usual, leading to more congestion than for a normal Spurs match.
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Simo said:
Same but got on a stop earlier at West Brompton, lovely walk, perhaps a mile long, through a mahoosive cemetery.
But even then, there was chelski fans already on the tube, so presumably they went further down and got on at parsons green
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Love going to Stamford Bridge, it's another world round there. Got an old-school vibe about it too. The other London ground I've always liked is Fulham - family club, lovely location on the river, and some great Youngs pubs if you cross over into Putney and turn right along the riverbank (assuming you don't mind mingling with posh blonde girls fresh from the rowing club). Worst of the lot is the new West Ham ground - everyone hates that, including the Hammers fans themselves.
 
MikeyMike said:
Love going to Stamford Bridge, it's another world round there. Got an old-school vibe about it too. The other London ground I've always liked is Fulham - family club, lovely location on the river, and some great Youngs pubs if you cross over into Putney and turn right along the riverbank (assuming you don't mind mingling with posh blonde girls fresh from the rowing club). Worst of the lot is the new West Ham ground - everyone hates that, including the Hammers fans themselves.
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Yes the walk to the ground from West Brompton seemed like a pub on every corner. Went into the Lillie Langtry (boozer, not anything else), quick pint before going inside the postage stamp, that is the away end concourse
 
MikeyMike said:
Love going to Stamford Bridge, it's another world round there. Got an old-school vibe about it too. The other London ground I've always liked is Fulham - family club, lovely location on the river, and some great Youngs pubs if you cross over into Putney and turn right along the riverbank (assuming you don't mind mingling with posh blonde girls fresh from the rowing club). Worst of the lot is the new West Ham ground - everyone hates that, including the Hammers fans themselves.
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Did you see that video by the hammers fan who went to our new stadiums second test event? He seemed to bloody love it didn’t he. You could see he wished West Ham had done the same thing. I guess it’s at least something the prior owner got right although how much of that is down to pure chance than anything I wouldn’t know.
 

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