Is Premier League Boring?

Good point about planned breaks, Arsenal did it on Saturday. It amazed me when we played Chelsea earlier on at GP I was waiting for them to have a proper go at us. Instead it was just passing side to side, only difference between RS and challengers is Salah.
The planned breaks have been a thing for a while, its a Guardiola/Arteta thing

They get used for a couple of reasons,

1. A couple of seasons ago Arsenal played at Anfield, every time Liverpool had 2 or 3 shots in quick succession Ramsdale would go down (knowing its the goalkeeper they cant play on) this would kill the momentum Liverpool were building up to slow the game back down when the ball would eventually come back into play
2. The timed drinks break/tactical brief......usually on around 60-70 minutes an Arsenal player will go down (again usually enough to bring a physio on), the players will use it as an opportunity to go and get 'drinks' from the bench. The coach uses this as a 'mid second half' team meeting to alter anything he feels is damaging the team etc. Micro managed to the enth degree.

I will also throw in the 'set piece headed clearance' into the mix. An Arsenal player heads the ball away in a melay of players from a set piece, the palyer who headed the ball away will proceed to hit the deck, to avoid any 2nd phase ball coming in from the opposition.

All horrible tactics which are a virus on the current game, i have used Arsenal las the biggest example as i see it most with them.

For someone who has Saka, Odergaard, Martinelli, Rice, Trossard & Havertz at his disposal, Arteta is such a cowardly manager. With his back 4 of centre backs (its ok with Jake O'Brien though), if he was English he would be getting called a dinosaur
 

My son has had tests to predict his growth potential. For years, the RS picked players from youth football to go into their development centre based on...

... how fast they could run.
It shows, agility and conditioning with speed is the basis of athleticism really. I know we call them PEDS but they are in seemingly fantastic condition.
 
I don't think dropping points is necessary a stick to beat the quality of a league with, 75 points is the lowest total a team has ever won the PL, both Liverpool & Arsenal will make that total i reckon, with Forest probably hitting 70.
Blackburn won it in 95 with 89 points (42 games), if you do your sums in todays points that's 80 points, well below the mid 90s required to win it in recent years

What is dull as you mentioned is any serious challenge, the teams coming up and going down basically being regurgitated between 5-6 clubs (and if its not any those clubs your Luton's & Ipswich's are pretty happy to go back down with a season PL money)

The race for the CL could be interesting, but what has stopped that being interesting is the fact it doesn't really matter, 5 teams could get CL football, hats a quarter of the league and that isn't as prestigious as it once was with its diluted format and stale 'same teams playing each other'

I think 2 biggest switch offs are

1)Style of play
No number 10s, no mavericks, every player basically conditioned to have to be at ultimate peak fitness with analytics and sports science turning every player into a performance robot. every team has 8 or 9 massive fat heads who could run through a brick wall...the game coached out of them (I blame Guardiola).
Analytics telling you that its better to pass the ball sideways and keep the ball moving than attempting a Dwight McNeil blammo from 30 yards.
Planned injury breaks for teams (Arsenal are kings of it) to kill momentum or have a quick tactical chat...they need to be banned straight away)

2) Money
We all know the complaints about money and the jeopardy is just to big, teams aren't bothered about on pitch performance but more concerned about sell on value. Acadmys arent built to produce the next big thing for your first team, but are built to help you supplement your next over priced transfer.
Chelsea's and City's having youth teams of 40-50 lads in each age group. Its mental
Those planned injury breaks really are awful. Stretcher out pronto, get them off and play on might be a solution but would have to leave them off for 5 mins after too
 
Indeed it is and it has been for a very long time.

Same teams competing at the top with the FFP restrictions although Nottingham Forest are a notable exception there.

VAR making sure that the teams beloved by the establishment win most weeks. Same teams coming up from the championship and then going straight down again every year.

The whole thing needs a reset imo. Just let the scab six bugger off and form their super league, and perhaps then we might have a more equal and fair competition.
 

The planned breaks have been a thing for a while, its a Guardiola/Arteta thing

They get used for a couple of reasons,

1. A couple of seasons ago Arsenal played at Anfield, every time Liverpool had 2 or 3 shots in quick succession Ramsdale would go down (knowing its the goalkeeper they cant play on) this would kill the momentum Liverpool were building up to slow the game back down when the ball would eventually come back into play
2. The timed drinks break/tactical brief......usually on around 60-70 minutes an Arsenal player will go down (again usually enough to bring a physio on), the players will use it as an opportunity to go and get 'drinks' from the bench. The coach uses this as a 'mid second half' team meeting to alter anything he feels is damaging the team etc. Micro managed to the enth degree.

I will also throw in the 'set piece headed clearance' into the mix. An Arsenal player heads the ball away in a melay of players from a set piece, the palyer who headed the ball away will proceed to hit the deck, to avoid any 2nd phase ball coming in from the opposition.

All horrible tactics which are a virus on the current game, i have used Arsenal las the biggest example as i see it most with them.

For someone who has Saka, Odergaard, Martinelli, Rice, Trossard & Havertz at his disposal, Arteta is such a cowardly manager. With his back 4 of centre backs (its ok with Jake O'Brien though), if he was English he would be getting called a dinosaur
Great post.

3 big problems for me:

1. Predictability
Polarisation of top 2-3 and bottom 2-3. It's got wider. Lowest points accumulation of bottom 3 clubs is something like 7 out the last 10, or 5 out the last 7 seasons. 3 up 3 down more likely. THIS HAS BEEN A BLESSING FOR EVERTON IN THE LAST 4 SEASONS! But anything predictable is obviously less interesting over time.

2. Tactics
Great post above. We're seeing the US influence on 'Soccer' with playbooks of sequences like those above. Grim, not quite sure how we tackle it. Needs analysis and Video refs calling it out, very complex though.

3. Quality
The mis mgt at Spurs and Utd, alongside the so far failed £1bn Chelsea experiment has opened the door for Forest, Brighton, Newcastle, Bournemouth and Villa. I love watching these guys demote the money sides. It's a shame Newcastle ownership is as it is, but they seem to be sticking to FFP more noticeably to their credit, and won the League Cup.

Ultimately these clubs are what they are, smaller squads, very well managed, balancing the books and winning games. At times though they are not great to watch, and are not serious Prem title contenders.

So it means we're watching a Grand National with a winner 10 lengths out but 8 horses in a scrum for CL. Is it exciting? Probably if you have a runner in there... Is the football 'great'. Not always. I don't think we'll have any CL teams in the last 4, that's another measure of quality. Or even the Europa. Could be a kinda weird off season like when Leicester won the title. But the Club world cup and all this shebazzle won't do anything for tiredness, quality or the expansion of squads with more bit part players.

I watched an old game the other night for about 15 mins. Quality of passing and football was higher, pace seemed to slow though! No Le Tissiers, Juninho's or even Zolas in the modern era of physicality and running 15km a game. Droidball.
 
It's getting pretty dull. Surprised the bubble hasn't burst yet. Having said that it would be less boring if we were challenging for something
 

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I personally think Salah is overrated and replaceable, I remember people thought they'd struggle to replace Coutinho and Mane when they left but it wasn't too difficult. Unfortunately they'll be the team to beat next season too as I think the challengers will not be a ton better next season either

Only problem is the handball law abroad is draconian and a farce

I think hes a lot more central for them than them mate.

City will be the team to beat, but suspect the league becomes more even.
 
I personally think Salah is overrated and replaceable, I remember people thought they'd struggle to replace Coutinho and Mane when they left but it wasn't too difficult. Unfortunately they'll be the team to beat next season too as I think the challengers will not be a ton better next season either

Only problem is the handball law abroad is draconian and a farce
They havent replaced Mane
 

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