2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Saint Domingo]

Sadly he did deflect from his own poor performances by constantly referencing how bad things were under Lampard in order to look after his own reputation though. If only he could’ve shown some of the class that Moyes has shown, who could’ve reasonably acted in the same way as him if he’d been so inclined.

They’re both telling the truth. Things had been bad at Everton before Dyche arrived. Fans were chasing players down the street in their cars. DOFs arguing with fans. Players walking around the pitch jumping out of tackles. Moyes is telling the truth by referencing the improvements that have been put in place, a defence that was the 4th best in the league last season and had a good number of clean sheets this season. There’s no nefarious agenda at work here. Two managers telling the truth about the reality they’re in. Maybe give it a try.

 

[davek]

Was it just a 'novelty' for 10 years when we consistently had a strong home record under Moyes? Moyes understands Everton unlike your arrogant gaslighting RS mate, he come in and recognised the players where at least capable of creating chances and getting 5 yards up the pitch, unlike your hoof ball merchant anti-football gobshite 'messiah'

Yesterday, we played to Beto’s strengths instead of just lumping it up to him- and guess what? It worked well. Who’d have thought?

We were almost relegated in his second season here...if he'd done that in the past few years he'd have been sacked 100%.

 

[davek]

Brighton were unbeaten in 7 before we played them and Leicester were coming off the back of an away win at Spurs

Absolute daft analysis. Brighton were playing rubbish, Spurs were in a slump and Leicester have scared one win in about 10 games.

 

[davek]

They’re both telling the truth. Things had been bad at Everton before Dyche arrived. Fans were chasing players down the street in their cars. DOFs arguing with fans. Players walking around the pitch jumping out of tackles. Moyes is telling the truth by referencing the improvements that have been put in place, a defence that was the 4th best in the league last season and had a good number of clean sheets this season. There’s no nefarious agenda at work here. Two managers telling the truth about the reality they’re in. Maybe give it a try.

Daft as a brush mate. There's a few on here who are just involved in Everton for the managerial intrigue: they just wanting hirings and firings. Permanent instability. That's what they get out of following Everton.

They're not supporters as far as Im concerned. I dont consider them Evertonians.

 

[Saint Domingo]

We'd lost something like 11 in 14 and sat on our lowest ever points total going into Feb when Dyche rocked up. He won the first couple too - Arsenal and Leeds.

It happens. New voice. New manager bounce is very real. Even Van Nistelrooy had some at Leicester.

I expected a big lift from Dyche, a team of young millionaires doing the hard hards, nuts and bolts etc. See Burnley after he left.

Villa was disappointing given their away form going into it. I expected us to beat Spurs and Leicester given their defence/woeful form. The win at Brighton was good but fancied us there given how well we do at their ground and they're not at it either.

But you can only beat who you face and we've done that. Brilliant.

Moyes isn't soft, he knows this team is is what it is - hence continually talking Dyche up, saying after Villa it's not about him, it's the players. Saying the issue at Everton for years hasn't been the manager and remarkable the club stayed a Prem team. Hes saying all this because he knows form an results will turn. Hopefully we've got a bit more in us.

Tell Moyes he has to sell more than he buys every window for 2 years, and sign players for 0 upfront though - and point deductions are coming next season and I think he'd struggle big time. The wheels would come off for him too.

Dyche did what we needed him to do. Kept us up. Kept our heads above water until new owners. I'm very grateful for that.

Some of the comments we’re seeing now are similar to what people were saying after Dyche took over. How quickly 4 wins in a row, multiple clean sheets, and Beto scoring after 22 passes v Newcastle is forgotten.

I want Moyes to take us toward, to get money, to move us up the table season on season similar to what he did his first time here.

But look at Brighton since De Zerbi’s first season. Has Howe moved Newcastle on since they came 4th? Has Emery improved Villa this season? They’ve all got all the money in the world. There’s people fuming at Dyche for not doing this despite selling his top players and having no money.

It’s very difficult to consistently do this in the long term. I am praying Moyes can do this, but beating up a terrible Leicester team and Spurs playing a teenage attacking mid at CB is not conclusive proof that it will definitely happen.

A lot of the fans short term jumping on these games as some sort of evidence to condemn Dyche will also be the first ones turning against Moyes when results don’t go his way.

 

[MikeH72]

They’re both telling the truth. Things had been bad at Everton before Dyche arrived. Fans were chasing players down the street in their cars. DOFs arguing with fans. Players walking around the pitch jumping out of tackles. Moyes is telling the truth by referencing the improvements that have been put in place, a defence that was the 4th best in the league last season and had a good number of clean sheets this season. There’s no nefarious agenda at work here. Two managers telling the truth about the reality they’re in. Maybe give it a try.

Haha yeah of course it’s the truth in your head. Because why wouldn’t it be.

Moyes has inherited a team that won 3 games in 19, scored 26 open play goals in the last 12 months, won 8 games in an entire calendar year and was 1 point outside of the relegation zone. Try and tell me that isn’t the actual reality.

Moyes isn’t going to come out and play the hard luck games to preserve his own reputation because he is not a classless toad like his predecessor.

 

[MikeH72]

Absolute daft analysis. Brighton were playing rubbish, Spurs were in a slump and Leicester have scared one win in about 10 games.

Brighton battered United at Old Trafford in the game before we played them.

 

[mahermi1]

Absolute daft analysis. Brighton were playing rubbish, Spurs were in a slump and Leicester have scared one win in about 10 games.

Christ Dave and you accused David Moyes of downplaying Everton.....kettle..pot..

 

[matty1878]

Absolute daft analysis. Brighton were playing rubbish, Spurs were in a slump and Leicester have scared one win in about 10 games.

which means what? dyche would of got of these?

 

[Joey66]

Counterargument.

He was arrogant.
He was pig headed.
He hated us (except Dave)
He had only one way to play; defend.
He had only one way (in the main) to attack - kick and charge.
He always thought he was doing us a favour.
The football for the time he was here was dour and rubbish.
He was paid a king's ransom for subjecting us to that rubbish and then then wanting to be lauded for it.

Thank You

The answer to that what other prem club has been in for him even WBA rejected him .......

 

[Joey66]

which means what? dyche would of got of these?

Not with continuous Hoof ball - No never .....

 

[davek]

Christ Dave and you accused David Moyes of downplaying Everton.....kettle..pot..

It wasn't Arsenal, Chelsea and City...unbeaten in those games with "the worst manager in Everton's history" though.

Some people need to stop running round with Dyche's head on a pike staff getting off on that rather than Everton winning games.

They're making absolute divvies of themselves...then again I think that might be their default setting.

There's two categories on here:

Divvies and Evertonians. Guess what side the likes of @Marius57 and @MikeH72 and @Rooney_Tunes etc are on.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

We'd lost something like 11 in 14 and sat on our lowest ever points total going into Feb when Dyche rocked up. He won the first couple too - Arsenal and Leeds.

It happens. New voice. New manager bounce is very real. Even Van Nistelrooy had some at Leicester.

I expected a big lift from Dyche, a team of young millionaires doing the hard hards, nuts and bolts etc. See Burnley after he left.

Villa was disappointing given their away form going into it. I expected us to beat Spurs and Leicester given their defence/woeful form. The win at Brighton was good but fancied us there given how well we do at their ground and they're not at it either.

But you can only beat who you face and we've done that. Brilliant.

Moyes isn't soft, he knows this team is is what it is - hence continually talking Dyche up, saying after Villa it's not about him, it's the players. Saying the issue at Everton for years hasn't been the manager and remarkable the club stayed a Prem team. Hes saying all this because he knows form an results will turn. Hopefully we've got a bit more in us.

Tell Moyes he has to sell more than he buys every window for 2 years, and sign players for 0 upfront though - and point deductions are coming next season and I think he'd struggle big time. The wheels would come off for him too.

Dyche did what we needed him to do. Kept us up. Kept our heads above water until new owners. I'm very grateful for that.

He did this for 11 years lmfao

 

[Marius57]

It wasn't Arsenal, Chelsea and City...unbeaten in those games with "the worst manager in Everton's history" though.

Some people need to stop running round with Dyche's head on a pike staff getting off in that rather than Everton winning games.

They're making absolute divvies of themselves...then again I think that might be their default setting.

There's two categories on here:

Divvies and Evertonians. Guess what side the likes of @Marius57 and @Mike and @Rooney_Tunes etc are on.

Bold move calling yourself a divvie

 

[Joey66]

Some of the comments we’re seeing now are similar to what people were saying after Dyche took over. How quickly 4 wins in a row, multiple clean sheets, and Beto scoring after 22 passes v Newcastle is forgotten.

I want Moyes to take us toward, to get money, to move us up the table season on season similar to what he did his first time here.

But look at Brighton since De Zerbi’s first season. Has Howe moved Newcastle on since they came 4th? Has Emery improved Villa this season? They’ve all got all the money in the world. There’s people fuming at Dyche for not doing this despite selling his top players and having no money.

It’s very difficult to consistently do this in the long term. I am praying Moyes can do this, but beating up a terrible Leicester team and Spurs playing a teenage attacking mid at CB is not conclusive proof that it will definitely happen.

A lot of the fans short term jumping on these games as some sort of evidence to condemn Dyche will also be the first ones turning against Moyes when results don’t go his way.

DM has had the ability to show our team how to attack we have score more goals than Dyches last 5 month reign ,,,, says it all - he did a good job last season - lost his way big time this season - It took Baines & Coleman to work out a back 3 - with an expensive CB Dyche would not play .... since then we have lost 1 game .... we struggled to score under Dyche recently ....