The Now-Irrelevant 2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

[NorthernBlue]

Yeah maybe... in isolation though those weren't necessarily bad results. I think if we pick up more points in the games I mentioned, then these games come into the conversation as "we'd be top half now if we'd converted them into wins".

If we had actually tried to win the two home games but only got a point then fair enough. That’s football. But we didn’t which is shameful. As soon as we realised we had to try and do something against Fulham then we created a couple of chances and scored. All be it a scrappy last minute goal. Point is we have thrown away games due to how we setup. I can see it happening Sunday to. As welcome as the last three results are it shouldn’t cover the sins of all the points we have either thrown away or not even tried to get.

 

[fitzyefc]

If we beat the 3 promoted sides at home we stay up comfortable

 

[Blue peter]

I think Leicester are dropping like a stone. It’s down to Ipswich for me, they’ve had some good results but also some bad runs and I don’t think they’ve won a game at home all season yet.

It’s ridiculous that we’re having to consider a team a relegation rival when that team was League One the season before last.

 

[MikeH72]

Yep. Said it last season that GD is worth an extra vital point whilst you're near the bottom. As long as our GD doesn't swing too much into the negative then we're looking reasonably healthy there compared to the current bottom three.

Hopefully Arsenal put a few more past Ipswich tonight.

Burnley went down in 2021/22 with a better goal difference than both us and Leeds. Nobody look up who their manager was btw.

 

[Saint Domingo]

It’s ridiculous that we’re having to consider a team a relegation rival when that team was League One the season before last.

Not really. Once a team gets in the PL it’s a PL team. No one is too big to go down, no one isn’t big enough to stay up. The squads Everton have been putting together for a succession of managers haven’t been good enough and we got away with it barely in the late 90s/early 2000s, then Moyes acted as a shield delivering European football as we continued to sell our best players and not reinvest in top quality, that has just carried on under Moshiri with the exception of a couple of years of money going in which was wasted.

It all leads to a very poor squad of players that has been involved at the wrong end of the table in some way or another under multiple different managers now for most seasons under Moshiri’s tenure.

 

[efcste97]

Burnley went down in 2021/22 with a better goal difference than both us and Leeds. Nobody look up who their manager was btw.

Don't look up the amount of games they drew either....if we carry on with our current win rate we'll end up with 6/7 wins, will that be enough?

 

[MikeH72]

If we beat the 3 promoted sides at home we stay up comfortable

That’s 9 points, which would put us on 26. Are you forecasting us drawing 10-12 games on top of that?

 

[Tipp blue]

That’s 9 points, which would put us on 26. Are you forecasting us drawing 10-12 games on top of that?

We'll be fine Dyche fitness doesn't kick in till March.

 

[MikeH72]

It’s ridiculous that we’re having to consider a team a relegation rival when that team was League One the season before last.

Especially when you consider we finished mid table last season. Whatever has happened over the course of the summer to bridge the gap between a newly promoted Championship team and a mid table Premier League team, I must’ve missed it.

 

[Blue peter]

Not really. Once a team gets in the PL it’s a PL team. No one is too big to go down, no one isn’t big enough to stay up. The squads Everton have been putting together for a succession of managers haven’t been good enough and we root away with it barely in the late 90s/early 2000s, then Moyes acted as a shield delivering European football as we continued to sell our best players and not reinvest in top quality, that has just carried on under Moshiri with the exception of a couple of years of money going in which was wasted.

It all leads to a very poor squad of players that has been involved at the wrong end of the table in some way or another under multiple different managers now for most seasons under Moshiri’s tenure.

I get what your saying, but I would think it needs more than 17 games for a former league one team as recent as 18 months ago, being able to be within the vicinity of competing with a forever present PL club who secured 48 points last season, no matter how badly money spent.

 

[NSNO1878EFC]

That’s 9 points, which would put us on 26. Are you forecasting us drawing 12 games on top of that?

Leicester are on course for around 30 points. Unless one of the bottom 3 teams puts a good run together, we won’t need much more than 30. If we carry on the form of the last 13 games (I know the first 4 counted as well…) which isn’t too much to ask in my opinion, we’d end with around 40-45 points.

 

[Victus]

Don't look up the amount of games they drew either....if we carry on with our current win rate we'll end up with 6/7 wins, will that be enough?

8/9 wins is the sweet spot usually.

 

[fitzyefc]

That’s 9 points, which would put us on 26. Are you forecasting us drawing 10-12 games on top of that?

No but it would leave us needing 10ish points at most from 18 games

 

[efcste97]

8/9 wins is the sweet spot usually.

Based on the current form of the teams, it should comfortably keep us up. However, we need to be cautious not to repeat Burnley’s 21/22 season by drawing too many games while others hit a good run of form. We're counting on the promoted teams going straight back down really, can't see palace or wolves going tbh.

 

[larrygobfiend]

We hardly ever win a game, so it shouldn't be a surprise that we're near the bottom

I’m thinking if the 2 games we completely blew.