New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

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Daytripper said:
Would people want him here if he had not played for Everton?
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Maybe? Maybe not?

If you look at what Carsley has done as a coach at City and England, you would say he has potential and he is highly rated.

His England side beat Spain Under 21's whose manager was promoted to their first team and won the Euros.

However he is still very green and never managed at this level so it is a gamble.

This group of players would benefit from a modern manager who plays positive, pressing attacking football be it Carsley, Potter or another
 


Drico said:
I'm not sure this group of players will benefit from ANY manager - at least not to the extent that they will improve enough to have contracts renewed.

Squad purge is as necessary as a new manager.
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In my opinion people massively overrate how good this squad is. Dyche isn’t a good manager but this is a really poor squad, there’s so little actual ability in it it’s unreal. People seem to live in this dreamworld where players with no record of ever having performed at the top level suddenly become great when a new manager comes in, I just don’t see it. There have been Everton squads in the past that I’ve believed were seriously underperforming, but not this one, dyche clearly isn’t getting the absolute most out of them at the moment but even if he was I think we’d still be in trouble, there’s maybe 2-3 players I could see moving upwards if they left.
 
Lanolin said:
In my opinion people massively overrate how good this squad is. Dyche isn’t a good manager but this is a really poor squad, there’s so little actual ability in it it’s unreal. People seem to live in this dreamworld where players with no record of ever having performed at the top level suddenly become great when a new manager comes in, I just don’t see it. There have been Everton squads in the past that I’ve believed were seriously underperforming, but not this one, dyche clearly isn’t getting the absolute most out of them at the moment but even if he was I think we’d still be in trouble, there’s maybe 2-3 players I could see moving upwards if they left.
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As bad a squad as I can remember. Perhaps 97-98 was weak, but even that had a handful of decent players. In fact, truth be told, I think that season was as bad as it was because our legendary manager was utterly finished. He was lucky he didn't endure a Brian Clough demise, because everything else was similar, sadly.

We have two good players. The rest simply aren't up to it. I'm amazed people defend these players.
 

mccole said:
Maybe? Maybe not?

If you look at what Carsley has done as a coach at City and England, you would say he has potential and he is highly rated.

His England side beat Spain Under 21's whose manager was promoted to their first team and won the Euros.

However he is still very green and never managed at this level so it is a gamble.

This group of players would benefit from a modern manager who plays positive, pressing attacking football be it Carsley, Potter or another
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I think he did OK managing England the only mistake he made was playing five forwards against Greece
Which total backfired but has you say still wet behind the ears
 
I’m just hoping the takeover gives the club a kick up the arse. Since the start of 22/23 season we’ve won 15 games at home. That’s 15 out of 44 games up to now. Every transfer window is just another opportunity to sell one of our better players and replace them with substandard signings. The players we do sign are slow, uninspiring and boring to watch. We’re being slowly suffocated. I’m not agreeing with the posts that have said going down wouldn’t be a bad thing, but I can see where they’re coming from. I work with a Leeds season ticket holder and he’s enjoying going to the game. They win most weeks and score loads of goals. Meanwhile we’re in our 4th consecutive season of checking the results of other relegation candidates and wondering if we can scrap to a 1-0 win over Wolves.

I’d love the Friedkin’s to go all out for someone like Conseicao. We need a fresh start with someone who has the ambition to create a team the fans can be proud of and sets the team up to be on the front foot, not looking to grind out 1-0’s or grind out draws. I want them to have the ambition to sign new players who are fast, bold and ambitious- who see Everton as a chance to show what they can do and kick on in their careers, not has beens who see Everton as an easy pay day. This seems like an impossible task at the moment, but the example of teams like Villa should give us grounds for optimism, it can be done, Come on Friedkins. Give us something to believe in.
 
Carsley looks a decent shout but I'm guessing he neeeds structure and support around him to succeed - as do all managers.

To Dyches credit, he's managed without much of that.

Not to Dyches credit is that we are 17th after said management.
 
blueblood said:
I’m just hoping the takeover gives the club a kick up the arse. Since the start of 22/23 season we’ve won 15 games at home. That’s 15 out of 44 games up to now. Every transfer window is just another opportunity to sell one of our better players and replace them with substandard signings. The players we do sign are slow, uninspiring and boring to watch. We’re being slowly suffocated. I’m not agreeing with the posts that have said going down wouldn’t be a bad thing, but I can see where they’re coming from. I work with a Leeds season ticket holder and he’s enjoying going to the game. They win most weeks and score loads of goals. Meanwhile we’re in our 4th consecutive season of checking the results of other relegation candidates and wondering if we can scrap to a 1-0 win over Wolves.

I’d love the Friedkin’s to go all out for someone like Conseicao. We need a fresh start with someone who has the ambition to create a team the fans can be proud of and sets the team up to be on the front foot, not looking to grind out 1-0’s or grind out draws. I want them to have the ambition to sign new players who are fast, bold and ambitious- who see Everton as a chance to show what they can do and kick on in their careers, not has beens who see Everton as an easy pay day. This seems like an impossible task at the moment, but the example of teams like Villa should give us grounds for optimism, it can be done, Come on Friedkins. Give us something to believe in.
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Couldn't agree more,now is the perfect opportunity for the 100% total reset this club has craved for so many years,new owners,new board,new manager,new team,new ground,new identity.
 
Marius57 said:
Bit of context for koeman (who I’m glad we sacked but feel people forget the start he had to the season).

He had 8 points from 9 games. (So only 1 point worse than Dyche this season and 1 point more than Dyche last season).

Having played Man City, Chelsea, spurs, man United and Arsenal.

They were the teams that finished 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 the season before. The only other game he lost was to Burnley who actually finished 7th that season.

I didn’t like Koeman but after finishing 7th and losing Lukaku, 9 games with those fixtures looks like a harsh sacking, especially compared to the time given to our managers since.
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Pretty much, but under early Moshiri, Dyche would have gone in winter last season without a doubt.

He had the luck that he had owners that stick with managers for long at Burnley and here.
 

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