Yes garner wound have been, but he was awful at times last season, he’s not like our best centre mid by a mile. And not a chance Patterson would have started, only a few months ago the manager was playing a centre back,
He’s since sold ahead of him
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He’s since sold ahead of him
Or at least a journalist should push back when he calls the slow start to successive seasons where the players look gassed “a head scratcher.”
He just won’t ever admit to needing to change his approach.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
It can be. If you cant get a caretaker in the dof run first team matters.
I still cant get my head around the job. I dont know what authority he has placing players on the pitch for a club this size.
Different subject but its a real head scratcher to me. Even now i can see players i dont think are Dyche types being brought in by a dof.
ToffeeScot
Player Valuation: £20m
Not hating Dyche doesn't equal Dyche lover. It's not a one or the other extremity.
JohnJq
Player Valuation: £5m
What he is saying about bringing in tens and tens of millions is true but also applies to many other premier league teams, some of whom brought in far more e.g. Brighton and Wolves. And any manager we had during this period would have had to do the same because of our finances. That is what forced him to get young players through the system, he didn’t develop a team that can excite and win so that bit is utter BS.
ToffeeScot
Player Valuation: £20m
Sorry, edited my post but it's all about options. We have had a squad with injury and niggles to start the season. Some of which would be starters or valuable squad options. Some like Tarks playing through them.
It can also be argued though that Dyche and the club haven't helped those fitness woes at times.
I just don't think we are in huge trouble...yet.
It’s also about 30mil down on
Buying and selling, ok it’s not great we’re selling more than spending, but were coming from a position of an expensive squad, it’s not like it’s a championship squad that has come up to the prem
And been forced to sell to buy.
For example our back 5 v Brighton cost 67mi Brightons cost under 10mil
GoldenToffee
Player Valuation: £70m
They've likely been told what type of questions won't be permitted in his press conferences. Which is a shame. He's never been asked any tough questions, rather just given a platform to suck his own peter and big himself up.
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
Going to have to get 6 or 7+ points from the next 3 matches, calm things down slightly. And then he wont get away with poor run like he did after Fulham in the cup last season. Just thankful worst case he is finished come end of season.Sorry, edited my post but it's all about options. We have had a squad with injury and niggles to start the season. Some of which would be starters or valuable squad options. Some like Tarks playing through them.
It can also be argued though that Dyche and the club haven't helped those fitness woes at times.
I just don't think we are in huge trouble...yet.
More a "could" - if there's a mass exodus of coaches and 2nd/U18 team managers it'd be a bit more worrying
I suppose we'll probably get Tait or Baines as caretaker, or a "team" like when we had Dunc for a game or two and he had all the boys helping him.The job makes sense but not for a manager like Dyche (or Moyes for that matter as he gets thrown back here a lot) - it's more of a future project type where you have to strike a balance between management and recruitment on what to get. In an ideal world, they'd probably have a talk where positions are identified and he should find targets that fit the manager, team and wage structure in those positions and work towards signing them. Not every transfer will be a massive hit obviously, as is always the case anyway, but that's the idea behind it and teams have been doing it for ages. Ideally he should also be the one to identify the manager himself as players are usually cherry picked for a certain style of play.
However, we got Ashley Young as first signing and rumours (which I have no doubt have some truth to them, if they aren't entirely true) that Dyche kept rejecting players as they won't fit how he wants to play. That's why it won't work - an outdated manager with an outdated approach is essentially blocking transfers, whereas a DoF is a team-first position where he's building a squad for this season and next.
Most of our transfers haven't been Dyche type players, but he's not really got a choice so he's playing the younger players (and even at that - rarely where he can help it) out of necessity.
Now, finances mean we're effed sideways so the squad building itself isn't exactly great either, but this should be a platform for mid/slightly lower finish (10-14 or so) this year where we can hopefully add more players next year to go a bit above, it's not an instantaneous thing unless you get some brilliant players for next to nothing.
Dyche definitely hasn’t helped especially his gaffer days from what I’ve heard.Sorry, edited my post but it's all about options. We have had a squad with injury and niggles to start the season. Some of which would be starters or valuable squad options. Some like Tarks playing through them.
It can also be argued though that Dyche and the club haven't helped those fitness woes at times.
I just don't think we are in huge trouble...yet.
Just read your edited post, the options bit is again a bit flakey because he doesn’t use his bench And referenced Pep, it’s noting to do with the quality imo . Hardly made Subs at Burnley
What do you class as trouble then mate, out of interest? A manager running players into the ground all summer so they're hilariously unfit and can't finish a match, and who keeps making stupid decisions that are actively costing us games as well as going for ridiculously long winless runs, is kind of normal so far as per those standards.Sorry, edited my post but it's all about options. We have had a squad with injury and niggles to start the season. Some of which would be starters or valuable squad options. Some like Tarks playing through them.
It can also be argued though that Dyche and the club haven't helped those fitness woes at times.
I just don't think we are in huge trouble...yet.
HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £35m
EA have put him in a tracksuit for FC25. Good times 
ToffeeScot
Player Valuation: £20m
If we are at the c.10 game mark and we are still rooted at the bottom with no change. I think 4 games in, particularly when 3 of those are Brighton, Villa and Spurs is too early. The next 6 are a truer reflection.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
More a "could" - if there's a mass exodus of coaches and 2nd/U18 team managers it'd be a bit more worrying
The job makes sense but not for a manager like Dyche (or Moyes for that matter as he gets thrown back here a lot) - it's more of a future project type where you have to strike a balance between management and recruitment on what to get. In an ideal world, they'd probably have a talk where positions are identified and he should find targets that fit the manager, team and wage structure in those positions and work towards signing them. Not every transfer will be a massive hit obviously, as is always the case anyway, but that's the idea behind it and teams have been doing it for ages. Ideally he should also be the one to identify the manager himself as players are usually cherry picked for a certain style of play.
However, we got Ashley Young as first signing and rumours (which I have no doubt have some truth to them, if they aren't entirely true) that Dyche kept rejecting players as they won't fit how he wants to play. That's why it won't work - an outdated manager with an outdated approach is essentially blocking transfers, whereas a DoF is a team-first position where he's building a squad for this season and next.
Most of our transfers haven't been Dyche type players, but he's not really got a choice so he's playing the younger players (and even at that - rarely where he can help it) out of necessity.
Now, finances mean we're effed sideways so the squad building itself isn't exactly great either, but this should be a platform for mid/slightly lower finish (10-14 or so) this year where we can hopefully add more players next year to go a bit above, it's not an instantaneous thing unless you get some brilliant players for next to nothing.
I agree the job can make sense at some clubs. Edu at Arsenal.
We get kevin. Who if someone can enlighten me as to what his history shows why he is in any position whatsoever to be placing players on the pitch at this level.
Do the accountancy work by all means.
Its a mad situation that just seems to be now accepted as normal.
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