Frank Lampard is a useless manager

[BlueStevie35]

That's a great result tonight. Imagine a Lampard team going down to 10 men and then a goal behind. What a wonderful day it was when the trap door belatedly opened on the incompetent, deluded, tossa.

Ignoring the red card, we went a goal down at City under him and got a point

 

[Yarrgh]

Taught Keane how to score blammos I heard.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Told Doucoure off for slapping people in training I heard, told him not to do it.

 

[MinkyJoe]

Weird to bump a thread about an ex manager after a game. Obsessed.

Not obsessed, but I certainly can't abide the man.

I was merely contrasting the way my team is playing now under someone who knows about (man) management as opposed to stubborn, naive Frank...and also how players can respond when they are managed by someone who they believe 'has a clue'.

 

[Walken]

I was one of the ones who initially overreacted to this. In terms of man management and squad morale, telling a player they're gash and can't improve is probably a questionable move, but indeed it won't define Lampard's tenure.

Not close to the worst things about lampard, but it is poor

 

[Walken]

Also Keane is probably the worst defender I've ever seen in a blue shirt so this is something Lampard should actually be commended for.

He's not even the worst defender in this squad

 

[Harryflashman]

If I was a manager over the last couple of years Keane would almost certainly be nowhere near the first team squad so I’ve no issue with that. The thing for me is that it seems that obvious how someone like Keane would need to be handled , if through injury or suspension he was needed . Given what I think we know about Keane this seems totally at odds with how to manage a player like him .

 

[PhilM]

If I was a manager over the last couple of years Keane would almost certainly be nowhere near the first team squad so I’ve no issue with that. The thing for me is that it seems that obvious how someone like Keane would need to be handled , if through injury or suspension he was needed . Given what I think we know about Keane this seems totally at odds with how to manage a player like him .

As a manager, their job is to get the best out of their players for the benefit of the club - to nurture, to develop. Even if it's to get the best value at resale.

You may not favour a player, but to pretty much dismiss them and apparently offer no mentoring or support is at best counterproductive, if not negligent.

I know it happens, but it does baffle me. Who else did he dismiss or neglect? What else did he not do?

 

[Harryflashman]

As a manager, their job is to get the best out of their players for the benefit of the club - to nurture, to develop. Even if it's to get the best value at resale.

You may not favour a player, but to pretty much dismiss them and apparently offer no mentoring or support is at best counterproductive, if not negligent.

I know it happens, but it does baffle me. Who else did he dismiss or neglect? What else did he not do?

Clearly lampard did well in reinventing Iwobi and effectively restarting his Everton career but I can’t help but look how Dyche walks about coady even whilst praising Keane . Maybe lampard did the same thing about Keane but I can’t recall but he certainly wrote him off . As I said I’m fine with dropping him because I would but isolating him feels pointless.

 

[MikeH72]

Reminder that some people went out to bat for him just because he wasn't Benitez.

There’s people that still continue to go out to bat for Benitez, kopite agent who was actively trying to sink us, and the man who appointed him against the wishes of the entire fanbase and even his own advisors on the board. That’s far, far worse deviant behaviour.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

He's not even the worst defender in this squad

I don't consider Coady to be ours and I hope he isn't signed.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Reminder that some people went out to bat for him just because he wasn't Benitez.

Never forget the shameless names who cheered on that crooked Tory even after he put us in not one but TWO consecutive relegation battles

 

[DualityNSNO]

Never forget the shameless names who cheered on that crooked Tory even after he put us in not one but TWO consecutive relegation battles

He realistically put is in one and got us out of the one your best mate got us in to be fair.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

He realistically put is in one and got us out of the one your best mate got us in to be fair.

Benitez left us 16th in the table 4 points or so above the bottom 3 with half a season left.

To say he got us out of a relegation scrap is ludicrous he kin put us right in it man ! 5 points behind Burnley in the bottom 3 at one stage and that was with Richarlison up top for us.

 

[Cool_Blue]

I think the reason for sticking with Lampard for so long likely came as a result from the previous experience of looking for a manager (lack of choice) and...

... the belief that the managerial go-round had to stop. Whether that was for stability reasons or Moshiri and co. didn't want to let the fans win, who knows.

Lots of fans, including myself, were hoping Lampard would get it right and gave some mitigation because of the terrible transfer dealings over time.

But, in hindsight, he should have gone before the World Cup for results alone, and that's before considering how that time could have allowed for an appointment.

The Bournemouth results were shambolic; the throwing away potential victories against Southampton and Wolves while at home were enough to relieve him.

Dyche isn't a stellar manager by any stretch of the imagination, but we already look more rigid, resilient and an attacking threat. Lampard's a dud... simple as.

Those 2 results could be what sinks us. We should have at least drawn both……them getting 3 points each and us getting none has made a massive difference looking at the table now.