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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


DuuuncanHadaPigeon said:
I asked my kopite mate this and he came back with well he is not actually a right back the way we play then sent me a 2 min video of klopp explaining his 'system for trent' it was just the ramblings of a tit.
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It's a straw man argument.

Let's be honest, he isn't suited as a right back because defensively he's pretty dire; offensively, he can pose a real threat, and it'd be silly to say otherwise.

But, if you're playing in the right back position and have the responsibility of defending like a right back does, you must be judged by those requirements.

Klopp either needs to drop him or accept that he and Alexander-Arnold are going to continue to get stick.
 
tommytowne said:
That Klopp interview was a masterpiece of jibberish
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It's actually bizarre. Confirmation of what all the analysis teams have done to expose weaknesses in Liverpools setup. And yet Liverpool fans an journalists proclaim it as a lesson from Klopp. It's a lesson in his failure to recognise his team isn't as good as it was, they aren't dominating territory on the pitch as well as before, so tactically they need to adjust. Or do something to reassert themselves an get the press working.

Saying that though, anyone who gets skinned easily both on the outside and inside, when he's in a defensive position is the hallmarks of a bad defender. And seeing as he appears to be required to do it more. Either coach him so he improves or play him in midfield.
 
Tony101 said:
That’s the question they now look like they lack the effort for the system. Is it because they aren’t cheating because of the World Cup. They looked exactly the same during the lockdown season losing at Anfield and really struggling. then like magic they was back. I Wouldn’t be surprised if they are suddenly back after the World Cup. I no people like the joke but if you actually look at it then it honestly stinks of something going on.
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Yeah I agree somethings definitely going on similar to lockdown like you say maybe they aren’t juicing because of the World Cup,let’s hope if they do pick up after the World Cup they can’t catch up to the top four,there woeful at the minute but you can never write that lot off
 

PhilM said:
Just mentioned in the sack race...

Rangers (H), Arsenal (A), Rangers (A), City (H), West Ham (H), Forest (A), Ajax (A) and Leeds (H). These are their fixtures in October, which could be a tricky month.
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Only winnable game there is Leeds as they usually do well against them

Rangers will give them a game, more so at a bouncing Ibrox

Arsenal look more solid this year, West Ham can get at them like Brighton did, Forest are an old bogey side, City have an unstoppable goal scorer and Ajax have already caused them issues
 
PhilM said:
It's a straw man argument.

Let's be honest, he isn't suited as a right back because defensively he's pretty dire; offensively, he can pose a real threat, and it'd be silly to say otherwise.

But, if you're playing in the right back position and have the responsibility of defending like a right back does, you must be judged by those requirements.

Klopp either needs to drop him or accept that he and Alexander-Arnold are going to continue to get stick.
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I fully understood what Klopp what was try to say but the issue is that if a FB is going to play that high up the pitch then a CB or one of the midfielders needs to be able to cover for them. At the moment their CB and midfielders are all getting on and seem a bit injury prone and don't have the legs anymore to keep up and cover the distance. Yesterday they had TAA up against Trossard and there was only ever going to be one winner imo. Klopp needs to change the system or find an alternative.
 
PhilM said:
I don't. They've built him up with this cult status, and now it's all unravelling before their eyes. The semi-reasonable fans will admit that he's been rubbish.

Most, however, will still praise him as amazing and misunderstood - our fault for not understanding, not his.
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Of course I really don't feel sorry for him like. Just the fall.
 
anton66 said:
Don’t understand why they play him in that position as clearly he can’t defend?
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Suits a wing back role. No one is filling in for him for the past 2 seasons to get him out of jail. Shining bright now how bad he is positionally, one on ones, and just all round defending.
 


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