Noisy noise annoys
Player Valuation: £60m
Actually the shout of the day
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
I'm not seeing a noticeable drop off in his performances tbh. Just fans aren't wildly overrating him any more.
I think the drop off happened a fair while ago, which is perhaps why people aren’t noticing it. He has been average, at best, for a while now.
Regressing at an alarming rate, like everybody else in the squad.
In a good side he's a different player IMO, in a Dyche side we don't see the best of him.
I think you could possibly argue that for a large number of our squad. These tactics are not getting the best out of the players at the club.
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
What I'm saying is he has always been average at best. He's not a game changing or dynamic player. More of a complimentary piece that looks good when the better players around him are playing well and looks bad when they also aren't performing.
He's just another Tom Cleverley type player, sits in the middle of the park just watching the game all around him.
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £40m
Don’t mind this shout. I like him but we can’t rely on him to be the “creative” midfielder, he’s not good enough but he could get up and down the right side and put in some crosses.
If we want genuine creativity then, as many flaws as he has, we probably have to find a way to play Gomes. He can’t run but he’s technically way ahead of the rest.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £35m
He has no options at all when he has the ball. Look at the pitch map of our players today, there is nothing except a line of 11 players right down the middle of the pitch. Feel sorry for him trying to make anything happen in this mess of a side.
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
Pretty much yeah. Your Cleverleys, Davies', Brownhills etc. They're a dime a dozen. He got pegged as some creative dynamo because he took set pieces at Forest in the championship when in reality he very rarely impacts a game.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £35m
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
Hes one of the ones not creating. It's his job to. He's the main culprit in the above passing sideways and never carrying the ball.
Yeah the shape is bad, the players around him are bad and the manager is bad. But let's not pretend he's setting people up and they're missing sitters. He just recycles the ball constantly. It's what he did for England's U21s and its what he did for Forest. I'm not blaming him for all our problems but as I said, he's a complimentary piece.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £35m
I'll ask again, how can he create when his options are all 5-10 yards next to him, with no width, with no skill. You're literally proving my point in your second paragraph, he most certainly isn't setting people up because there's nobody to set up. This is a pretty simple take to grasp.
