Hypothetical Martinez question

[larrygobfiend]

Would we be in a better position right now if we had gritted our teeth and stuck with our wham spouting former manager?

 

[MikeH72]

No because:

- We were still bottom half
- Our best players would still all have left
- We'd have still brought Steve Walsh in
- We still wouldn't be able to defend
- The protests against him would still have continued and the home atmosphere would still be toxic

 

[GrumpyBlue]

We'd be lighting up the Championship with dazzling sideways passing and the occasional fancy goal at the end of an 86 pass move, while conceding 6 away at Burton Albion. Clown.

 

[BrendanGOT]

No, the slide/ rot had already begun from his 2nd season, I don't know if that was completely down to martinez, the players being gobsh1tes or off field decisons or a mix of all of the above.

Edit; the same rot is still happening at present so that's not just a problem of the martinez era.

 

[larrygobfiend]

No, the slide/ rot had already begun from his 2nd season, I don't know if that was completely down to martinez, the players being gobsh1tes or off field decisons or a mix of all of the above.

Edit; the same rot is still happening at present so that's not just a problem of the martinez era.

There seems to be a pattern emerging with the players at the club.

 

[Kev50]

Would we be in a better position right now if we had gritted our teeth and stuck with our wham spouting former manager?

i think wed be higher up, but in a different league, so swings and roundabouts

 

[evertonarntwe]

I'd go and pick bobby up from Belgium myself if we could come back and make us have a few shots

I don't even care about getting beat anymore I'd just like to see us do something

depressingly bad every week under this gravy machine

 

[GwladysBlue]

Are people seriously forgetting how bad it was under Martinez?

If there had of been another 5 or 6 games left in that 2015/16 season, we would have went down.

 

[larrygobfiend]

Are people seriously forgetting how bad it was under Martinez?

If there had of been another 5 or 6 games left in that 2015/16 season, we would have went down.

He was terrible, but we're hardly pulling up trees right now. His philosophy was bang on, it's just a shame he was deluded, had no plan B and lost the dressing room.

 

[kenada_blue]

No because:

- We were still bottom half
- Our best players would still all have left
- We'd have still brought Steve Walsh in
- We still wouldn't be able to defend
- The protests against him would still have continued and the home atmosphere would still be toxic

I dunno. It has been said that hes got a Jedi mind trick on players.

I think he'd be able to persuade better players to come with the money Koeman spent though.

 

[GwladysBlue]

He was terrible, but we're hardly pulling up trees right now. His philosophy was bang on, it's just a shame he was deluded, had no plan B and lost the dressing room.

The man infuriated me. It’s bad right now, but that last Martinez season was Hell.

 

[Blues Harp]

Try looking at the people who actually appointed our last 4 managers (not inc Unsy) and there lies our biggest problem.

 

[Willow18]

That last Martinez year was the only time I’ve ever stopped getting up to watch the games. I can’t even remember how bad it was but I know I’d got so sick of it I stopped caring. That hasn’t happened yet so based on that, no we wouldn’t be.

 

[KaiserEFC]

Oh my god we were dreadful under him. Disturbingly short memories here

 

[yakublue]

Are people seriously forgetting how bad it was under Martinez?

If there had of been another 5 or 6 games left in that 2015/16 season, we would have went down.

We were awful but we did get to the semi final of both cups that year. We also probably had a better squad than we do now - we still had lukaku and stones, baines and barry were a couple of years younger, and we hadn't yet signed dross like williams.