pfim
Player Valuation: £35m
It was a Moyes tactic as he hasn't been doing that with the US since Klinsmann took over two years ago.
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It was a Moyes tactic as he hasn't been doing that with the US since Klinsmann took over two years ago.
Maybe it's biased reporting, but we get the other view over here. CONCACAF #4 vs New Zealand is seen as consolation entry to WC despite playing poorly in the Hex. Granted, El Tri has been horrible and if New Zealand have any chance, it's against an out of form Mexico.
Has anyone else thought his form is better for USMNT than the Blues lately? I wasn't able to watch the entire game at Columbus, but he had some nice stops against El Tri.
themagmaman
Player Valuation: £225k
Can someone explain to me why there is a large divide in supporters that think Howard is good, and those that think Howard is total crap? I'm just curious if I've missed something.
He's been stellar for the USMNT, and I know he's had a few hiccups here and there (a good one last week, luckily Barry bailed him out) but is generally consistent no?
He's been stellar for the USMNT, and I know he's had a few hiccups here and there (a good one last week, luckily Barry bailed him out) but is generally consistent no?
I think so far he's been in his best form for seasons and the competition provided by Joel has to help (of course apart from that hideous pass).
He is maybe consistent in his saves, but he is awful all around keeper - poor regarding dealing with crosses, doesn't command the box at all, doesn't pass well (kicking and throwing), etc...
He's just a taller and slightly better version of Shay Given, which isn't compliment in my book, as I for years considered Given to be ultra gash and very overrated keeper at the same time.
He's just a taller and slightly better version of Shay Given, which isn't compliment in my book, as I for years considered Given to be ultra gash and very overrated keeper at the same time.
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The bar, for this position particularly, is incredibly high. Most Evertonians grew up with the best of the best, and those that didn't certainly know about his legacy. There's no room for hiccups.
themagmaman
Player Valuation: £225k
But wouldn't you say that if he was a great goaltender and didn't have random hiccups, it's only a matter of time before we lost him to one of the bigger teams for money? I'd think Howard has been just good enough to stay with the team, but not great enough to leave to a bigger club. Which seems kind of nice to me... I mean it sucks that he isn't amazing, but then we'd only lose him to another team.
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Yea, thats true. but for me, growing up, Everton were that bigger club. Granted we haven't won much lately but it's worth remembering we have over twice as many league titles as Chelsea. We have two of the best full backs in the league who don't want to leave, we shouldn't settle for something just short of the very best. #NSNO
themagmaman
Player Valuation: £225k
Alright, I agree and I see your points. Thanks for the clarification. Now if only the club could get a rich owner...
Haha, yea, we live in hope. Sad that it's gone like that tho. Not to get too nostalgic but in the early 80's a good manager and club set up could get you all the way, Just look at Forest's back to back european cups or the achievements of the like's of Ipswich or Watford. We could be managed by Guardiola and we'd still struggle against the big spenders... right I'm just depressing my self now!
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
ijjysmith
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Probably going to jinx him now but he's played pretty well this year so far i'd say.
Bar the one near huge balls up against Chelsea he's done everythign we could have asked whilst never needing to be too spectacular. Very decent handling last night too.
Could well be that having Robles as an actual challenge has helped. I think a lot of people in this thread have agreed that he just needed some competition. He now has.
Oh and #BLB
Bar the one near huge balls up against Chelsea he's done everythign we could have asked whilst never needing to be too spectacular. Very decent handling last night too.
Could well be that having Robles as an actual challenge has helped. I think a lot of people in this thread have agreed that he just needed some competition. He now has.
Oh and #BLB
As others have said the level is incredibly high, we've had who many described as the best goalkeeper in the world playing for us for many years and then after a few near misses Nigel Martyn came in who was also superb.
I don't think there any keepers in the premier league that are of the level either Southall or Martyn were at, or other great keepers too like Seaman or Schmicheal.
Howard for me is the 3rd best keeper we've had in the last 30 years!
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