GwladysBlue
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Merry Christmas to all the contributors to this thread.
bizzaro
LOVE GOT JUST THE WAY IT IS #ALWNV
Get them out for a walk in the country.
Hot tea or coffee in a flask.
Change of scene .
Thank you for your kind words merry christmas to you as well
Thank you for your kind words merry christmas to you as well
Without being dramatic if you think they have potential to commit suicide, I,d contact them immediately and try to gauge their mental state. Go with you gut feeling on this one, as if you know them well you,ll be able to tell how they really are, even if they say the emails where mistakes and everything is now fine. If you're worried enough after contacting them someone needs to go and see them pronto. If you know their families contact them too, as they may be unaware of the situation. I would look at their emails as a cry for help. If you're friends are men, I,d be doubly concerned, as generally men will not ask for help from anyone until they have hit rock bottom . Sorry to be so gloomy, but I think doing nothing isn't an option.
helpimonfire
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Good advice there.
I hope everyone else is coping fine and enjoying the holidays
I hope everyone else is coping fine and enjoying the holidays
It's an imbalance of certain chemicals in the brain - can be brought on by extreme stress, bereavement, combat situations etc, can be seasonal or can happen for no reason at all. Many many factors but it's all to do with a chemical imbalance in the brain. Hope this helps in understanding it a bit more ?
bizzaro
LOVE GOT JUST THE WAY IT IS #ALWNV
Its also about a failure to distinguish things like
1. Mental illness
2. Psychiatric injury
The former can be genetic and totally out if someones control. The latter is typically caused by environment and traumatic events occurring around and to a person
Mental illness and psychiatric injury can both see depression as symptoms of something else more underlying and fundamental.
Both can be highly stigmatised. Both typically need professional assistance to counter. Its not like someone can just 'snap out of it'.
Depression itself can be mild and transient
Or deep and chronic.
Mild transient is something someone may get over themselves if their lives are generally going well and their overall health and diet are good.
Deep chronic depression can cause a negative feedback in someone's overall health which means breaking the cycle is difficult without assistance.
In my case its psychiatric injuries that resulted in a predisposition to depression. With a fixation on the cause of the initial pyschiatric injuries. (Aka ptsd)
This causes loss of self. Loss of purpose and classic up and down. Ptsd sufferers often can have a period of 'I'm cured' only to then down again. Family members dont have the patience to deal with the fixation and recurring issues that can result from things like 'intrusive flashbacks' and the like. The 'cure' for PTSD is self awareness. Regain self. Regain sense of purpose. But it's lifelong in terms of implementing it as ptsd never goes nor the depression. You just get to manage it. Better. Tolerable levels.
Yes. A negative stimulus with the original event can cause depression events @potato this is what the intrusive flashbacks are.
I'm someone who now dislikes very crowded places I don't know (most of the time) and someone can can look like I'm going mental in reponse to a specific trigger - very occasionally (my specific trigger). This is an anxiety based reaction (anxiety attack) fight or flight response ... In extreme PTSD. This response is switched on permanently 'hypervigilence'
I had it on for about three years - I recognise now. this damages your health generally.
Cynical people might try and use this type of thing against you for their gain by 'abusive personalities'. Had that happen. So learning about 'shaming' techniques how to counter them is important for recovery too for a depression sufferer.
I feel for some of those who have depression resulting from other mental illnesses or physical ailments.
For them in my mind the path to health is not as clear to me personally. So they have alot of my sympathy.
Depression symptoms vary btw. Its not a black white spectrum. More a grey spectrum.
Ultimately people can emerge as unbelievably stronger persons from it.
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Fantastic explanation of depressive illness, I tried to keep mine very very simple. Thanks for explaining it in more depth.
trebilcock66
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Just be there for them as much as you can. Unconditionally. Remember that you are not responsible for their actions - only for your own. Ask them how they're feeling. Listen to the answers without judging. Try not to solve the problem for them - they're intelligent people, you've said, so have probably thought of all the obvious solutions and tried them. Perhaps encourage them to go to Samaritans or their GP. Let them know you care. That's as much as any of us can do.
Azzurri
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Sister's mate, a 15 year old lad, walked on to the M56 in front of a lorry the other day. Just about alive.
Crazy to think at 15 someone is trying to kill themselves when there seems to be nothing up with his life.
Shows it can happen to anyone at any age really.
Crazy to think at 15 someone is trying to kill themselves when there seems to be nothing up with his life.
Shows it can happen to anyone at any age really.
Can't remember who said it, but it's a great quote about depression - " outside I,m smiling and inside I,m crying ". That's the thing with mental illness, you can't see into someone's head.
