2017/18 Davy Klaassen

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I haven't contradicted myself at all. This is the exact argument I was trying to avoid. I specifically said I'm not trying to rate his quality which can mean take away anything from him he has achieved already.

You're the one who changed scores of games. I believe the results would have been the same. You credit him for saving a point by himself in a game he was awful.

I guess we would have lost 1-0 without DCL. It's just a dumb hypothetical to take guys off the field and change results because you can't account for what the other players playing in his place may have done. You do understand that right. It's not a take Klaassen off 0-0 draw vs Stoke, we could win 2-0, 2-1 instead or maybe lose 1-0. It's just an absolutely ridiculous point and argument to make.

I could sit here and say if Williams stayed on we would have won that City game because the defense looked solid until that point. With Williams we'd have another 2 points. But he might not have covered the one run Klaassen did well. I could ramble on. Point is your argument is dumb, you can't just change scores. They don't play 10 v 11 without him.
Thats absurd. So if Tom Cleverly was on the field instead of Klaassen all of those results would be the same? So if we just swap out players, it doesnt make a difference in results?

Thats a ridiculous argument to make. You want to talk about dumb, but then you go on about how it doesnt matter what players we have on the field, we will just magically have the same scorelines.
 

Thats absurd. So if Tom Cleverly was on the field instead of Klaassen all of those results would be the same? So if we just swap out players, it doesnt make a difference in results?

Thats a ridiculous argument to make. You want to talk about dumb, but then you go on about how it doesnt matter what players we have on the field, we will just magically have the same scorelines.


Great goal today, couldn't catch the game but you clearly aren't getting the point. If you could read you'd notice that I said I could be wrong and you could as well and maybe those draws are loses without him. I just believe they would likely remain the same as I believe we were the superior side.

You like engaging in hypothetical's, and don't care much for nuance. I'm done, good luck
 
Lol finally just watched the highlights and heard sigurdsson, and was like wait a second. That's not klaassen. Amateur move on my part. Saw an alert and immediately thought it was klaassen and someone would be trying to twist what I said and make me eat my words. Which I'd happily do. I blame the double S's
 
He will be central to our structure going forward together with Gana
We had little shape last night and both of them were missed
 


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