OK Top 4 was never on (now stop vaulting this thread) :-)

[EFC78]

Let's be honest, we aren't getting a top 4 place, nor are we good enough for one. Our best chance since 04-05 was last season after we had beaten Arsenal. We were on a 7 game winning streak, we demolished our rival for that 4th place and when the pressure was turned up, we bottled it against Palace. I've said before as well that our inability to rise to the occasion in big games, particularly away from home against our rivals will also prevent us from getting there. When do we ever go to a place like White Hart Lane and get a win, and then in the next game beat Arsenal at the Emirates? Top 4 sides are capable of doing that., we aren't. This season we can't even beat the poor sides that we are better than like Hull at home.

I expect us to improve, and if we get some form together, coinciding with some luck with injuries then we may have a chance at a European spot through coming 6th-7th but there is no way we will get 4th.

The other sides like Arsenal have had poor seasons but they're still 6 points ahead of us. When they improve how are we going to get ahead of them?

A change is needed in the players and managers mentality as well. Yesterday was a chance to go there and play some good football and grab a win. Martinez, similar to Moyes in the past, set his team up in bizarre fashion as if we had something to worry about from a side that had lost 5 games in a row.

 

[By god I'm blue]

You clearly suffer from short term memory loss

 

[hktoffee]

Top 4 of what?

Of being shtt...

 

[ijjysmith]

Of being shtt...

IT'S DEFO ON

 

[EverBlue86]

Our rivals are crap, shame we are worse

 

[Titus Bramble]

Top 4 of what?

The bottom 7.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Know what really annoys me? Last year's form would of walked top four, it's bloody typical is to go s*** when everyone else does!

 

[royalbalou]

Know what really annoys me? Last years form would of walked top four, it's bloody typical is to go s*** when everyone else does!

Everton that

 

[marty mcfly]

6 points behind two teams playing rubbish (Spurs and Arsenal)

1 point behind Liverpool.

Yes we're playing rubbish but if we sort out the balance we have the players to go on a run.

I also wanted to cheer us up

 

[mglennon]

How many pts did we have this time last yr after 17 games?

 

[ijjysmith]

How many pts did we have this time last yr after 17 games?

Think we are on 13 less at the moment.

 

[Carlito]

Top four is barely on when the team is playing well.

 

[Groucho]

Personally i expect us to win the league.

I do every summer. We were title holders when I first went to Goodison and saw us win subsequent honours.

However looking at the quality of the league I don't deny that 4th is still a possibility at least.

Chelsea are good, followed by 19 out of form or crap sides, perhaps City aside. It's there for the taking, 4th, to whoever gets their act together quickest.

 

[Moomin]

I remember the good old days when people were saying calm down, we are only 4 points off fourth place.

Stoke is a massive game. We need to be out the blocks fast or the crowd will turn on the players.

 

[DanEFC92]

10 points off West Ham. Depressing.