New Everton Stadium Discussion

[blueblood]

Aren't we pursuing BMD because of a hugely improved corporate facilities aspect? As well as having adequate facilities to the average supporter? The jaguar lounge (for instance) for the former and enough bars and urinals for the later?
Will BMD be competing with Kings dock for musical events and the like?

Concerts are big business nowadays. Saw somewhere that Sunderland earned £2 million from hosting Take That in 2011. Stadium gigs are the likes of Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, Foo Fighters etc, bands who wouldn’t consider the Echo arena as it’s too small.
Goodison hospitality is really small time. There’s exponential amounts of new money that will be made from BMD.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Concerts are big business nowadays. Saw somewhere that Sunderland earned £2 million from hosting Take That in 2011. Stadium gigs are the likes of Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, Foo Fighters etc, bands who wouldn’t consider the Echo arena as it’s too small.
Goodison hospitality is really small time. There’s exponential amounts of new money that will be made from BMD.

Could be a real lift to the city, people travelling into and staying in the city, rock gig at BMD one night, some other nonsense at anfield the following. Make the most of a weekend break and chalk a couple of top gigs off. 40k in each stadium consecutive nights. Hotels, bars, pubs and all the street vendor types, massive uplift to the local economy. Mathew street bumping 24 hours a day with all the ferry holidayers.

 

[blueblood]

Could be a real lift to the city, people travelling into and staying in the city, rock gig at BMD one night, some other nonsense at anfield the following. Make the most of a weekend break and chalk a couple of top gigs off. 40k in each stadium consecutive nights. Hotels, bars, pubs and all the street vendor types, massive uplift to the local economy. Mathew street bumping 24 hours a day with all the ferry holidayers.

Yes- Wembley stadium produced a report about 5 years ago showing the impact of the stadium on the economy in Brent. It was tens of millions. The stadium is a massive asset for the city as well as for Everton.

 

[LucBesson]

Has there been any more said on the plan for matchday traffic? I used to live down Waterloo Road and it's a real bottleneck when you leave the Strand. Really need to make the most of the public transport infrastructure (of which there's loads obviously), but realistically thousands will still drive / park nearby.

 

[Goat]

Has there been any more said on the plan for matchday traffic? I used to live down Waterloo Road and it's a real bottleneck when you leave the Strand. Really need to make the most of the public transport infrastructure (of which there's loads obviously), but realistically thousands will still drive / park nearby.

Whole place will be gridlock, they really need to get the transport sorted ASAP.

 

[LucBesson]

Whole place will be gridlock, they really need to get the transport sorted ASAP.

It's also a concern for potential concerts as well because it's a different crowd altogether - most of which will be coming from outside the city.

 

[tommye]

Whole place will be gridlock, they really need to get the transport sorted ASAP.

Will you start to use public transport to get to a match once we move?

 

[Bungle]

Will you start to use public transport to get to a match once we move?

 

[Goat]

Will you start to use public transport to get to a match once we move?

Yeah, we are already planning it, currently the plan is to get the train, but if The Wife still has her current job I can just park in her works car park, hopefully.

I go with my cousin atm in his Electric car, saves a fortune on petrol and the tunnel!

 

[tommye]

I was thinking more...

 

[Ferguson1878]

but how do we even operate and be successful? when we’re screwed

mate if forget about being successful , i think just operating is the best we can hope for from now on

 

[matty1878]

mate if forget about being successful , i think just operating is the best we can hope for from now on

yup!

 

[Tom Hughes]

Concerts are big business nowadays. Saw somewhere that Sunderland earned £2 million from hosting Take That in 2011. Stadium gigs are the likes of Bruce Springsteen, Taylor Swift, Foo Fighters etc, bands who wouldn’t consider the Echo arena as it’s too small.
Goodison hospitality is really small time. There’s exponential amounts of new money that will be made from BMD.

Sunderland have only averaged about 2 concerts per year. Without a moving pitch there is little scope to increase that considerably and of course Anfield and the Etihad are also in that market in this region, are larger with far more boxes and corporate capacity and more parking on site.

Yes, Goodison's executive/corporate/hospitality capacity isn't great..... but BMD only has 22 boxes, and a few thousand mainly corporate lite seats. The only figures for projected income are external estimates and seem to be around £40m for matchday income and that's dependent on quite a hike in general admission ticket prices. The interest payments on the current loans alone (not the total debt) could wipe that out.

The financial model for BMD was always dependent on the owner (and his backer) sticking around for years, absorbing the debt until the full stadium (club) value was realised for them to get payback. That was "ambitious" at £500m costs with 10 yrs internal sponsorship from USM, nevermind at £750m costs and no USM.

At present, the club is practically unsustainable. The debts have forced the owner to want to get off at Edge Hill and do a runner. The only hope is that the completed stadium packages the club for a sale to someone with sufficiently deep pockets to absorb those debts and/or for Moshiri to take the hit.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Sunderland have only averaged about 2 concerts per year. Without a moving pitch there is little scope to increase that considerably and of course Anfield and the Etihad are also in that market in this region, are larger with far more boxes and corporate capacity and more parking on site.

Yes, Goodison's executive/corporate/hospitality capacity isn't great..... but BMD only has 22 boxes, and a few thousand mainly corporate lite seats. The only figures for projected income are external estimates and seem to be around £40m for matchday income and that's dependent on quite a hike in general admission ticket prices. The interest payments on the current loans alone (not the total debt) could wipe that out.

The financial model for BMD was always dependent on the owner (and his backer) sticking around for years, absorbing the debt until the full stadium (club) value was realised for them to get payback. That was "ambitious" at £500m costs with 10 yrs internal sponsorship from USM, nevermind at £750m costs and no USM.

At present, the club is practically unsustainable. The debts have forced the owner to want to get off at Edge Hill and do a runner. The only hope is that the completed stadium packages the club for a sale to someone with sufficiently deep pockets to absorb those debts and/or for Moshiri to take the hit.

We live in hope that 777 look to sell for a quick profit once the stadium is completed and sell to someone with serious money. You’d think the Qatari’s who couldn’t get the Glazers to sell United to them would have been interested, but it looks as though that isn’t the case.

 

[Dr Baxter]

Or better still, someone else is waiting in the wings already.