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How much for the pair?
In fact, Mikel Arteta was the shares all along!
Bill Kenwright
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Toffeepot
Player Valuation: £35m
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
I'm no fan of Kenwright, he stuck around like a bad smell for far too long when, instead of thinking he was indispensable, he should have buggered off years ago, but this thing about him taking a seven figure salary is utter bollocks.
All the info is in black and white in the accounts, and the only sensible conclusion to draw from the accounts is that only one director took a seven figure salary, and that was Brands.
There are many sticks to beat Kenwright with, and, lets face it, his legacy is pretty much a disaster zone, but the "he took a huge salary out of the club" isn't one of them.
TL;DR ?
Bill Kenwright - a decent human being, but he had a huge ego which has ultimately been a major contribution to our current situation.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
Directors remuneration in 20/21 (the last year I could easily find) was £4.2m so I'm not sure how you've done your sums as Brands' pay was widely reported at £2m so that leaves £2.2m for the others. Even if he wasn't making a million a year he was still paid high six figures.
Even if you don't accept that, the tens of millions he personally made selling the club to Moshiri after decades of selling off everything to do with the club and pumping in nothing (despite lies about mortgaging his house) is enough for me to reject the "kindly benefactor" persona he desperately wanted to project and that others seem happy to swallow.
Exactly.
Borrowed money of close personal friends for his share of 'True Blue Holdings' to 'save' the club from Peter Johnson. (which was debt free at the time, so not sure what it needed saving from)
Made up a fantasy story about ring fenced money and a mystery investment fund to head off a play for more control from those same friends that loaned him his stake. A genuine case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. We'd could potentially have been playing our 18th season in a city centre stadium right now.
Frantically scrambled around his other associates and this eventually led to Planet Hollywood fella (genuinely forget his name he was so engaged with the club) to buy out the Greggs.
Built a training ground.
Sold the old training ground.
Then sells the new training ground and takes out a long term lease instead.
Sold a '50m player' for not much over 10m up front to stave off Barklays bank.
Refuses questions regarding 'other operating costs' at AGM.
Cancels AGMs. Our director of comms at the time is quoted as saying "They're full of drunken knobheads."
Rebuffs an approach from Sheikh Mansour. (who knows who else)
Tries to surrender the city to our rivals by moving us to supermarket car park in Knowsley borough.
Starts an orchestrated media campaign against Everton fans after the Blue Union release a transcript of the interview held at Bills office.
Despite repeated claims that he's "The best salesman for Everton Football Club" the 24/7 search for investment finally turns up a buyer that pockets him 10s of millions for ZERO personal investment. And wouldn't you know it? That buyer is quite content to let him stay on as Chairman.
WHAT. ARE. THE. CHANCES!!??
Despite having a billionaire (and a very generous mate) seemingly happy to spend, Kenwright and his board are happy to remain silent, taking handsome salaries and putting the club in breach of regulations. Fact.
On top of all that, his CEO (the best in the business!) clearly saw no risk of having the vast majority of our commercial revenue from one group of companies. Instead, she was content to crow about record deals which in reality were average at best. (the outlier being the 30m to be head of an imaginary queue to sponsor an as yet built stadium)
When fans started to question their suitability as the executive leadership, he orchestrates one final hatchet job. Security threats, headlocks. Not safe to attend matches.
He was utterly, utterly shameless, but plenty of us had seen that movie before. It was standard Kenwright. Friends in the media, friends with some high profile 'fans.' Some fans who get their news from the match day program lapped it up and refused to believe the whispers that Bill didn't have the club's best interests at heart. "He's hurting as much as anyone."
I'm absolutely delighted he's no longer the chairman of this football club. The damage HE IS RESPONSIBLE for will take a long long time to repair, that's provided we make it through the next 18/24 months - by no means a certainty.
When he took control we were still just about regarded as 'big 5.' We then morphed into 'the best of the rest' and we're now perennial lower mid/relegation scrappers.
Undoubtedly the worse individual in the history of Everton Football Club.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £35m
I don't even think he was a good human being, I think he was a narcissist who donated money to ill kids and what not to feed his own ego and image.
Who knows?
In the days after after his passing and all these stories came out (non-EFC) I was genuinely touched by them.
Whatever the motive behind it, it's unarguable that his selective generosity helped those who benefitted from it.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £35m
Beneficial to both parties.
So what if he took a million pound salary! It's his business to do with as he pleases in my opinion. Pales in to significance against the player wages anyway..
To all those obvious ass youngsters posting, this is how you the stir the pot effectively.
Concede the major points or at least some of them to appear reasonable, raise a non issue some may be been slightly hyperbolic about and play the pedant and throw in a bit of bothsides-ism at the end then walk away to let others argue over it.
Very very good.
Ron Burgundy
Player Valuation: £15m
Exactly.
Borrowed money of close personal friends for his share of 'True Blue Holdings' to 'save' the club from Peter Johnson. (which was debt free at the time, so not sure what it needed saving from)
Made up a fantasy story about ring fenced money and a mystery investment fund to head off a play for more control from those same friends that loaned him his stake. A genuine case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. We'd could potentially have been playing our 18th season in a city centre stadium right now.
Frantically scrambled around his other associates and this eventually led to Planet Hollywood fella (genuinely forget his name he was so engaged with the club) to buy out the Greggs.
Built a training ground.
Sold the old training ground.
Then sells the new training ground and takes out a long term lease instead.
Sold a '50m player' for not much over 10m up front to stave off Barklays bank.
Refuses questions regarding 'other operating costs' at AGM.
Cancels AGMs. Our director of comms at the time is quoted as saying "They're full of drunken knobheads."
Rebuffs an approach from Sheikh Mansour. (who knows who else)
Tries to surrender the city to our rivals by moving us to supermarket car park in Knowsley borough.
Starts an orchestrated media campaign against Everton fans after the Blue Union release a transcript of the interview held at Bills office.
Despite repeated claims that he's "The best salesman for Everton Football Club" the 24/7 search for investment finally turns up a buyer that pockets him 10s of millions for ZERO personal investment. And wouldn't you know it? That buyer is quite content to let him stay on as Chairman.
WHAT. ARE. THE. CHANCES!!??
Despite having a billionaire (and a very generous mate) seemingly happy to spend, Kenwright and his board are happy to remain silent, taking handsome salaries and putting the club in breach of regulations. Fact.
On top of all that, his CEO (the best in the business!) clearly saw no risk of having the vast majority of our commercial revenue from one group of companies. Instead, she was content to crow about record deals which in reality were average at best. (the outlier being the 30m to be head of an imaginary queue to sponsor an as yet built stadium)
When fans started to question their suitability as the executive leadership, he orchestrates one final hatchet job. Security threats, headlocks. Not safe to attend matches.
He was utterly, utterly shameless, but plenty of us had seen that movie before. It was standard Kenwright. Friends in the media, friends with some high profile 'fans.' Some fans who get their news from the match day program lapped it up and refused to believe the whispers that Bill didn't have the club's best interests at heart. "He's hurting as much as anyone."
I'm absolutely delighted he's no longer the chairman of this football club. The damage HE IS RESPONSIBLE for will take a long long time to repair, that's provided we make it through the next 18/24 months - by no means a certainty.
When he took control we were still just about regarded as 'big 5.' We then morphed into 'the best of the rest' and we're now perennial lower mid/relegation scrappers.
Undoubtedly the worse individual in the history of Everton Football Club.
Outstanding post sir, bravo.
The one overriding thing to remember about Kenwright is that he was an inveterate liar and indeed had lying down to a fine art.
Duncan Donuts
Player Valuation: £750k
It’s undeniable that Moshiri is ultimately responsible for everything that’s happened in the last few years.
Or maybe even Usmanov. Who knows what had to go through him first?
Or maybe even Usmanov. Who knows what had to go through him first?
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
And who brought Moshiri into the club after years of supposedly searching the globe for the perfect owner? How could it be that after all this work we ended up with the one guy who was quite happy to keep Kenwright and his creatures around, still making money and from the club and basically running thing for him? If Moshiri is partly responsible for the position we're in then the man that sold him the club and continued to profit and benefit while he ruined it is even more responsible. Stop making excuses for this moron. We where grabge pre Moshiri too you know. We never won a button. You might have bought into the propaganda that being "best of the rest" was an achievement of some sorts but knocking around 5th, 6th and 7th while never winning anything (as the likes of Birmingham and Portsmouth and Wigan do) doesn't count as anything other then failure.
Blue Willy
Player Valuation: £5m
Bill was a reasonable chap in many aspects of his colourful life. With a difficult job, he was effectively a poor chairman for us, but he was always a true Blue.
Lets draw a line under all this now and move on.
Lets draw a line under all this now and move on.
