If Martinez can't keep us up who can?
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If Martinez can't keep us up who can?
Can I ask why people would trust Martinez in a relegation fight, given his career track record and our form this season?
Can I ask why people would trust Martinez in a relegation fight, given his career track record and our form this season?
No, give him time to prove, or otherwise, that this is just a bad spell.
No way would I sack him in January. We have the ability in the squad to turn this round, he deserves a chance to do so.
If we sack him now, and get a "pragmatic" manager in to "steady the ship" then you can forget about European football for the forseeable.
Reasonable, as I obviously consider Martinez a good manager when things are going well. But it's a massive risk to take and you're essentially relying on three clubs being somehow worse than us until the season ends.
We may be fortunate that the league is just that bad really.
We have a decent squad, but have players coming to the end of their careers who need replacing. We either go with someone like Martinez who has the skills to take us onto the next level, and take a chance that it backfires, or we play safe and go back to aiming for 40 points per season with anything else being a bonus
Martinez' insistence on playing the ball out of defence when under pressure with players who don't have the necessary skills, is infuriating, but I'd rather give him the chance to show us what he can do over the next 18 months before binning him. We won't get relegated under Martinez, there are many worse teams in the League than Wigan when they were relegated and we're a lot better than Wigan.
It's not about the quality of the squad in this situation, it's about application. You don't survive with tiki taka using a bunch of players bereft of confidence.
We can say there are worse teams, but hand on heart who can you pick out us beating at the moment? QPR we won by default as they are comfortably the worst team in the league. We'd beat Leicester, Burnley... the list ends there for me. And the difference between us and them are that they are sides who can raise the tempo and battle against the bigger sides and get the odd point.
I can honestly see this Everton side losing half a dozen on the bounce quite regularly with the way we are playing, as QPR aside there isn't an easier team to play against right now.
2 seasons in, 1 record breaking one and one equally as poor one. not sure that's an overally justification for sacking myself, at the end of the day, regardless of the formation, all 11 who he's being forced to put out there are playing like a pack of retards. i'd gladly sack half of our underforming senior players before the manager tbh.
It's not an indictment on his ability to manage players in good form, but it'd simply be a business decision. You can't stick with a man with his track record this season and beyond when millions upon millions of pound are at stake. He had years to mould Wigan into a side that would have a solid defence and managed to actually make them worse year on year and eventually took them down - we can't run the risk of history repeating itself, just on the off-chance that we'll get better and benefit from his obvious talents as a manager with form players.
If the option was there to sack him for 6 months and hire him when we were safe, I'd take it. But it isn't, so it's a case of pick your poison here - do you stand by him and hope we survive somehow, or you get rid and allow someone in who'd have a better chance of immediately making the changes that allow talented players to play high tempo football, before we're under too much pressure to cope.