2018/19 Yerry Mina

[CRIMHEAD]

Because like many footballers, he wasn’t half bad until he came here

Do some of you realize that the prior two coaches were just really bad? When players have good track records elsewhere, they don’t magically become bad players.

And the Spanish league is not just more technical, it’s just a better quality league. Love the PL, thought. The time on the ball thing is silly. There’s a reason these team have more time on the ball. Press a technical team and see what happens.

 

[Lanolin]

Sevilla won three Euro cups in a row, Real 3 CL, Athleti have won 3 EL since around 2009 Barca have won 3 in recent times. They have had a strangle hold on the competitions in recent times. You just have to look at Coaching license numbers per country Spain out numbers England 9-1 just on these figures alone. Coaching, youth development and technical ability is streets ahead in Spain it’s not even worth arguing.

The EPL has a high standard due to the influx of cash and foreigners and it’s a league focused more on athleticism.

La Liga is a far higher standard technically it’s not even up for debate there’s a reason why the best players in England ain’t English

None of that is in any way related to your point though. It doesn't matter whether the best players here are English or not, they're still here, and so they still count towards the technical quality of the league. You've also used the example of the same 4 teams that the poster you were replying to had said they were discounting as the point was about depth.

To me it depends what you class as technical quality. Is a defender who has a great touch and passing ability but can't head, tackle or intercept technically good or technically bad? Are we judging them on the technical skills most relevant to their role, or those most pleasing on the eye?

Anyway, looking forward to see Mina when he eventually manages to get himself on to the pitch.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

30m now is like 54 in 2020, not to mention if he’s a flop we can’t send him back (like a loan after expiry) and we’ve lost 30M, we’ve been had.

Other than we get two years of a good player and make 24M. Every signing is a risk if they are a flop.

 

[ProZ]

Other than we get two years of a good player and make 24M. Every signing is a risk if they are a flop.

The point I’m making is, a 30M player now will cost 54M in 2020 for the exact same player, that is the way the market is going.

 

[riddick]

Wages have nothing to do with the transfer fee, the exchange we get for his wages is the games he plays. We will make a profit of £30m if they buy him back.

TECHNICALLY probably closer to £45m. Because of how we most likely are doing installments on the payments, we only would have done two by then, where they would have to pay the whole thing I reckon?

 

[arminisgod]

It's really not, they just have lots of time on the ball. The premier league is much faster.

The list of Spanish players who were highly regarded who came over here and couldn't adapt is quite high.

I keep hearing this drivel about the Premier league being much faster.. I heard it when Pep dominated with Barca and I half believed it until i watched Bilbao completely over run Manchester United in the Europa League and made them look like yard dogs.

 

[MikeH72]

The point I’m making is, a 30M player now will cost 54M in 2020 for the exact same player, that is the way the market is going.

It can’t just keep going up forever can it? We’re not going to get to a point where Jack Cork is costing £200m.

 

[Neiler]

Wages goes with the territory Neil ....we could have signed Robert Huth and still would have had to pay him.
But if he is very good for us we double what we paid for him.

True but it all comes from the same source, the true cost of a transfers the fee and cost of a contract. Id say we make a profit of a 1-5 million if they exercised their option. Like i dont like the deal, but i like the player.

My name is not Neil by the way!

 

[ProZ]

It can’t just keep going up forever can it? We’re not going to get to a point where Jack Cork is costing £200m.

I think if we froze Jack Cork for 30 years then yes he’d be worth 200M, frightening.

 

[Neiler]

Would another centre half have being playing for free then?

Thats a silly thing to say, of course not. Im evaluating the deal in contrast to people saying we will make a 30 mill profit, my premise is that after wages, we will make a small profit, 1-5 mill and have the player for two year, should Barca exercise the right.

 

[Neiler]

Wages have nothing to do with the transfer fee, the exchange we get for his wages is the games he plays. We will make a profit of £30m if they buy him back.

Of course it does the cost of a transfer is fee and contract and wages it all comes from the same source, tranfer fees dont show the actual cost of a transfer. We know this only to well at Everton having to shift half our squad on mega wedge.

 

[Lanolin]

Thats a silly thing to say, of course not. Im evaluating the deal in contrast to people saying we will make a 30 mill profit, my premise is that after wages, we will make a small profit, 1-5 mill and have the player for two year, should Barca exercise the right.

It's not silly at all. The point is that you can't take wages into account when calculating the profit, because we'd have had to pay somebody the wages anyway.

 

[Neiler]

He won't be going back to Barca. If he does, he'll have done very, very well and we make a profit.

Its all speculation at this point agreed.

I think we make a very small profit in reality.

His future isnt in our hands though.

 

[Neiler]

30m now is like 54 in 2020, not to mention if he’s a flop we can’t send him back (like a loan after expiry) and we’ve lost 30M, we’ve been had.

If hes gash he is ours, that said look what Barca did with Del,he was surplus with us. They still resigned him and sold him on again at a profit.

Even if he is gash we have no say in his future.

 

[MikeH72]

Of course it does the cost of a transfer is fee and contract and wages it all comes from the same source, tranfer fees dont show the actual cost of a transfer. We know this only to well at Everton having to shift half our squad on mega wedge.

It doesn’t mate, it has literally nothing to do with the fee. If you think it does then we’ve made a profit on Davy Klaassen because we’ve saved on his £6m a year wages for the next 4 years.