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Del · May 23, 2013

Brennan said:
The society we're protecting from the horrors of Islam lads.

hang on Brennan

These few idiots do not represent Britain as a whole just as you say these Muslim nut jobs do not represent the entire Muslim community

Elong · May 23, 2013

This is why I have no place in my life for religion. Look at how it divides this forum, let alone the world.

Bundy · May 23, 2013

Number_25 said:
I do not in anyway condole what happened today, any type of violence is uncalled for regardless of what the perpetrators decide to base its argument on.

However, I do think that now is the time that we in the West re-think our attitude on the middle east. Our continued support of the terrorist state of Israel has caused great friction in the middle east, and we're going to end up with the brunt of it.

That wont happen mate.

Dell Boy · May 23, 2013

Number_25 said:
I do not in anyway condole what happened today, any type of violence is uncalled for regardless of what the perpetrators decide to base its argument on.

However, I do think that now is the time that we in the West re-think our attitude on the middle east. Our continued support of the terrorist state of Israel has caused great friction in the middle east, and we're going to end up with the brunt of it.

Israel is a state at war in the midst of a war ravaged area of the globe. I would struggle to identify a single state in the Middle East that is 100% innocent of any charges.

The key issue here is that Islam fanatics think it is acceptable to butcher innocent people in the name of religion. That is such a crazy idea and one western Christianity got rid of centuries and centuries ago.

If the Islamic elders across the globe came out and said this type of murder of innocents was wrong and the evil men that commit such acts will not have eternal life in a heaven with a hundred pretty maidens then it would stop. But they won't. For that simple reason the West cannot just sit back and take this. If every Muslim leader came out and said "murder is murder" and "you'll spend eternity in hell" etc then it would stop.

There's something about seeing these scenes on a British street next to a primary school that crosses the line for me. These people and their take on Islam is utterly f*cked up. We give these people freedom of speech which they abuse. Likewise benefits and a society that is there willing to help. Sod that - something has to change

Bundy · May 23, 2013

Elong said:
This is why I have no place in my life for religion. Look at how it divides this forum, let alone the world.

Ban gay marriage.

Del · May 23, 2013

Bundy said:
Ban gay marriage.

Reasons?

WA Toffee · May 23, 2013

Del said:
Reasons?

At a guess, probably because New Zealand recently legalised gay marriage?

bernie inn · May 23, 2013

Haven't read any of this thread, so this might have been covered, when does a random murder become a terrorist attack? If I kick someone in the balls and shout admiral ackbar will I be tried as a terrorist?

bluejock · May 23, 2013

Ban New Zealand

bluejock · May 23, 2013

bernie inn said:
Haven't read any of this thread, so this might have been covered, when does a random murder become a terrorist attack? If I kick someone in the balls and shout admiral ackbar will I be tried as a terrorist?

After you start shouting into a television camera that you killed Admiral Ackbar because he was responsible for killing muslims in your homeland.

Big Fat Sam · May 23, 2013

Thought those two carts were shot dead, apparently neither is!

ToffeeMark · May 23, 2013

butters said:
Thought those two carts were shot dead, apparently neither is!

Are we still allowed to hang draw and quarter traitors?

Elong · May 23, 2013

bluejock said:
Ban New Zealand

Is the most sensible thing to come out of this thread to be fair.

Love your new sig too, he had me howling earlier this afternoon, oh BundZ. He's a Christian as far as I can remember is Bundy, so it won't please him what our lovely country has recently done. But that's OT.

Surprised official releases were so quick to call this an act of terror, looks like some nutters on the street causing mayhem in the name of religion, no doubt I'll be proved wrong, but where do you draw the line. Lock em up for life in any event, terrorist of not, it's not acceptable in any decent country.

degsy · May 23, 2013

WA Toffee said:
Concealed carry and you would probably end up with an annual murder rate like the United States. No thanks, I'd rather not.

If it's true and the poor guy was an off ( or even on ) duty soldier then concealed carry shouldn't be a problem, I mean they're trained in the use of fire arms it's not like they are strangers to them and might be prone to panic and shoot at the wrong time.

And I don't care who you are, trained or not, 2 guys attack you I don't think you will be in any doubt to use the gun...and yes I know.

Just watched the news and they mounted the pavement and run him down in a car without warning then attacked him so concealed weapon would've done him no good.

As I said previously the cure will be far worse than the illness...hence the hamstrung Govts pretend we are really really doing something none action policy.

But the longer it goes on, some where, some when, some one, a high up will say feck it and the sh1t will really hit the fan. and then we will see just how worse the 'cure' ends up being.

Mr Powell's Blood in the streets quote will look pale in comparison, he didn't know 1/100th of it.

*pray 4 us all.

As always the few spoil it for the many.