I read the first broadsides with great interest because they spoke about important events that needed to see the light of day: civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. But this latest batch is just . . . what? Gossip aimed at stirring up animosity? I have yet to read anything that I don't already know (Royals are pinheads? Russians are corrupt? Berlusconi isn't human but rather carved out of moist cheese?) or anything that is even vaguely important. I know they haven't released anything yet but it appears to me that all this lot is like an adolescent prank, aimed at stirring up the hornet's nest. I'm all for free speech, but . . . do something important please if you're going to stand up as the paragon of transparancy.
Wikileaks - what's the point?
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That Julian lid who runs it is one massively bad hank. I'm made up the Americans are going to beat him up at some point.
There all these threats against the man and I'm torn because I believe in transparency and the exposure of evil in government - but this stuff is pure mean-spirited pap, designed to just cause chaos. He's now hiding in his Swedish Hollow Mountain Hideout like a true Evil Villain, causing Whirl and Chaos abroad for not defensible reason. I don't know how I'll feel if he gets "shut down", but god help him if he picks on FIFA. No mountain on earth can hide him from the payback that fifa can buy.
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
Got into an argument last night with a friend who thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Her point was that wikileaks is exposing "lies". What lies? I already knew the Ruskies were as corrupt as the day is long. I already knew that diplomats say one thing in private and another in public. It's called being "diplomatic". I'm really struggling to see the value, other than it's interesting in the same way gossip is interesting.
On the flip side it's a very real possibility that people's lives are being put in danger in cases, which completely nullifies any positive that could come from this. Per CNN:
"Earlier this week, the president of Human Rights First sent a letter to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, asking him to remove the name of human rights activists and organizations from the documents before they were released.
"The public disclosure of that information -- to the extent that it includes individuals or organizations from repressive or authoritarian countries (such as Iran, China, Russia, Cuba etc.) -- is extremely reckless as it will increase their risk of persecution, imprisonment and violence," said the letter from Elisa Massimino, the president and CEO of the group".
Game over for me. Assange isn't some freedom fighter, he's a bad meff who is looking to glorify himself.
On the flip side it's a very real possibility that people's lives are being put in danger in cases, which completely nullifies any positive that could come from this. Per CNN:
"Earlier this week, the president of Human Rights First sent a letter to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, asking him to remove the name of human rights activists and organizations from the documents before they were released.
"The public disclosure of that information -- to the extent that it includes individuals or organizations from repressive or authoritarian countries (such as Iran, China, Russia, Cuba etc.) -- is extremely reckless as it will increase their risk of persecution, imprisonment and violence," said the letter from Elisa Massimino, the president and CEO of the group".
Game over for me. Assange isn't some freedom fighter, he's a bad meff who is looking to glorify himself.
davek
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The interest in wikileaks comes from the vacuum created by the orthodox media. By and large, they fail to report the world as it operates and remain supine - shovelling the private lives of z-list celebrities down out throats and acting as cheerleaders for austerity cuts to pay for the failures of bankers and their political friends. When something comes along to cut through that cosy world (and yes, we might all have figured what they revealed goes on, but that's not the same as knowing...as all the detractors of 'conspiracy theories' who demand facts will testify to) then it's downgraded as being 'adolescent'.
I dont know what their motives are, maybe they're anarchists or something. Whatever, they've done us all a service by underminging the credibility of the power crazed.
I dont know what their motives are, maybe they're anarchists or something. Whatever, they've done us all a service by underminging the credibility of the power crazed.
Your continued improvements in scouse ripping always make me laugh.
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
I need to speak the language if I ever come visit. I don't want to have to rely on a phrasebook. Still waiting for my Rosetta Stone "Scouse for Beginners" to arrive.
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
If anything, I think these cables make the American Diplomatic corps appear to be professional, sober, and actually portrays them in a good light, even though some of the cables will make for awkward dinner party conversations next time 'round.
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