tommye
Player Valuation: £100m
You know the drill.
Name, shame and post dog sniffing gif.
Who would you replace Lampard with?
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Name, shame and post dog sniffing gif.
andy4efc
Player Valuation: £60m
I wouldn't. I see no reason to change nor any promising candidate who would fit the bill.
Has changed his principles and ideas to adapt to what he has available..
Has planted the foundations for a hard-to-beat team who CAN play football - although not yet consistently.
Is still short of his desired winger(s)
Has a strong connection with the club and its stakeholders (mostly the fans).
I am always really sceptical of "oh he has a connection with the fans", but after seeing Benitez work his disastrous ways you can see it does play a part. Stability, one big group pulling together. He is not perfect, no manager is, he is still a young manager and he HAS shown beyond doubt he learns from games, from periods of good and bad. The one thing the media always like to ignore is the fact that Lampard came in, played football, soon showed the players weren't up to it and changed his whole philosophy to ensure we beat the drop. Managers relating to the supporters, particulary with no previous connection
I dont think we are anywhere near Lampard's preferred style yet but he identifeid our centrebacks were weak mentally and immediately in summer corrected that, we still have a lot to do but I dont get this big agenda from certain aspects of fans and the media to get him out. More than any other manager since probably Moyes and perhaps Martinez' we can see the foundations of the team. Martinez' failure to adapt and adjust his style cost him dearly but you could see a clear footprint of what he wanted to do, whether it worked is another question. Evidently it worked first season but over time it showed the players he was signing/using, not all were up to it. Moyes was clear as day, defend first, and over time got better and better with more technical footballers. Lampard you can see the foundations are in place.
Can be frustrating at times btu for the first time in a long time I can see the big picture and hope it pans out how it plans to.
Has changed his principles and ideas to adapt to what he has available..
Has planted the foundations for a hard-to-beat team who CAN play football - although not yet consistently.
Is still short of his desired winger(s)
Has a strong connection with the club and its stakeholders (mostly the fans).
I am always really sceptical of "oh he has a connection with the fans", but after seeing Benitez work his disastrous ways you can see it does play a part. Stability, one big group pulling together. He is not perfect, no manager is, he is still a young manager and he HAS shown beyond doubt he learns from games, from periods of good and bad. The one thing the media always like to ignore is the fact that Lampard came in, played football, soon showed the players weren't up to it and changed his whole philosophy to ensure we beat the drop. Managers relating to the supporters, particulary with no previous connection
I dont think we are anywhere near Lampard's preferred style yet but he identifeid our centrebacks were weak mentally and immediately in summer corrected that, we still have a lot to do but I dont get this big agenda from certain aspects of fans and the media to get him out. More than any other manager since probably Moyes and perhaps Martinez' we can see the foundations of the team. Martinez' failure to adapt and adjust his style cost him dearly but you could see a clear footprint of what he wanted to do, whether it worked is another question. Evidently it worked first season but over time it showed the players he was signing/using, not all were up to it. Moyes was clear as day, defend first, and over time got better and better with more technical footballers. Lampard you can see the foundations are in place.
Can be frustrating at times btu for the first time in a long time I can see the big picture and hope it pans out how it plans to.
I'm hoping Lampard stays for a long time.
Tired of the usual names being thrown about and a load of unknowns because they are 'trendy'
Some new attacking options in January and we will be fine.
I dont actually think we have been too bad this season, so many positives and improvements on last season.
Tired of the usual names being thrown about and a load of unknowns because they are 'trendy'
Some new attacking options in January and we will be fine.
I dont actually think we have been too bad this season, so many positives and improvements on last season.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £90m
Maybe get round to doing it then
andy4efc
Player Valuation: £60m
I think we're lacking quality in wide areas, Gordon is relied on as a starter but reality is he needs to be rotated in and out not doing 70/90 a game.
Hard to watch Kudus play and not see what differnet he would have made. Him and that Chukuwuze are clearly a certain type of profile the club are looking for and hope we get it in January.
Gordon is inconsistent, Gray has no end product and not much a football brain. Swap them for a bit more intelligence and product, we will be a really strong coutner attacking team, with the potential to have Onana up to speed a bit more, Iwobi more players to bounce off, and Gana not having to do as much mopping up.
As frustrated as we all get on matchday, I dont get those who do not see the vast improvements made from May to now.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £50m
All flash and no substance, avoid if possible.
andy4efc
Player Valuation: £60m
That's a different question, i was meaning the profile of the player of what is being targeted.
We will see in January, I am mildly hopeful, but this is Everton so we could easily end up with Dan James on a double loan from Fulham/Leeds.
Pootsy
Player Valuation: £20m
I understand this is a hypothetical question so I'll answer as such.
Lampard is an energetic young manager who played in the Premiership, studied some fantastic managers at work and won all there was to win domestically and in Europe. Kevin Thelwell therefore should be looking at a similar foil with similar formation preferences so the squad can continue to be shaped to play a certain way from the youth teams up to the first team. This is the only way for a DOF system to work. It has to be a long term vision.
Lampard is an energetic young manager who played in the Premiership, studied some fantastic managers at work and won all there was to win domestically and in Europe. Kevin Thelwell therefore should be looking at a similar foil with similar formation preferences so the squad can continue to be shaped to play a certain way from the youth teams up to the first team. This is the only way for a DOF system to work. It has to be a long term vision.
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
So, Sam allardyce?
Frank Lampard hasn't even been in the job 12 months and people are throwing around names of possible replacements ?
Pittsburgh Footy
Player Valuation: £35m
The state of this thread
Steve EFC
Player Valuation: £8m
I see it as they are introducing the good stuff as and when they can.
After last season the pragmatic approach is okay surely?!
I also believe they are building in confidence and I only see it improving further into the season.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
The average manager in top flight football in the modern game lasts approx. 2-3 seasons at one club before getting the boot.
Lampard wont be going anywhere this season but I highly doubt 3 seasons from now he will still be our manager (unless he pulls off a big coup like a top 4 finish or trophy win).
I imagine once BMD is / nearly built and the FFP situation has improved he'll inevitably be moved on at some point. Hence why the "he's one of us" "he gets us" stuff is cringe.
Lampard wont be going anywhere this season but I highly doubt 3 seasons from now he will still be our manager (unless he pulls off a big coup like a top 4 finish or trophy win).
I imagine once BMD is / nearly built and the FFP situation has improved he'll inevitably be moved on at some point. Hence why the "he's one of us" "he gets us" stuff is cringe.
Would you say it's Geordie behaviour?
Pittsburgh Footy
Player Valuation: £35m
I understand there are other facts and circumstances at play, but how long have Klopp and Pep been at their clubs again?
Why does Chelsea always seem to underperform in the league? And relative to their talent
Look at what Arsenal sticking with Arteta has brought them
Sure, these are individual factoids. But big picture, striving for stability can be a good thing. Especially for a club like us that's overseen some awful footy since the stability of Moyes
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