deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
...see my previous post
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...see my previous post
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
We could easily overtake Spurs this weekend. Er, hang on, we're Everton, let me rephrase that; we could with a great deal of difficulty overtake Spurs this weekend
This weekend will help determine where we end up.
We face Cardiff at home whilst Utd have Liverpool at Old trafford and spurs welcome Arsenal.
We have to make up points on our rivals when they are dropping them.
We face Cardiff at home whilst Utd have Liverpool at Old trafford and spurs welcome Arsenal.
We have to make up points on our rivals when they are dropping them.
Christiffa25
Player Valuation: £35m
Exactly... We have had a tough month of fixtures and dropped points on teams with easier fixtures. This month the tables are turned and this is where we show if were good enough or not. We should recoup our lost points, putting us ahead of utd and spurs and closer to Liverpool and arsenal. If we don't then when are only as good as the league table is currently suggesting.
They're 5 points ahead. 'Great deal of difficulty' is understating it.
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes, you are right. I thought they were on 50 points. Let me rephrase my post : we could easily be only 2 points behind Spurs after this weekend. Er, hang on, we're Everton, let me rephrase that; we could with a great deal of difficulty be only 2 points behind Spurs after this weekend....
....with a game in hand
Ara
Player Valuation: £6m
2 games in hand
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
Agree, both Utd and Spurs have tough fixtures the rest of March -
Utd have to play 5 games in 13 days including Liverpool, city and a CL 2nd leg with a manager under pressure
Spurs have 5 in 17 days inc Arsenal & S'ton at home, Liverpool away and 2 Europa League games which are their only chance of silverware this year with a manager under pressure
In contast we have 4 games in 15 days with the hardest on paper being Newcastle away.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
Could easily find ourselves with 15/15 from our March fixtures. Outr cup dream is over, but Cardiff, Fulham and Swansea are all winnable, and Newcastle? Well lets see how they fare without Pardew.
TheFinnFan
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raib
Player Valuation: £1.5m
The amount of possession we have, you think we had a good chance of doing something. Then you look at the number of chances we create and the number of goals we score from those chances, then I think we have 0.01% chance of making 4th place. Unless Spurs and ManUtd have a major collapse we will not even get 6th. Newcastle put a run together and beat us as well, then they could take 7th from us.
We have improved as a team and can trouble the big team, compared to the team DM put out. Teams let us have the ball as they know we do not hurt them with the possession we have. We lost to RS and we had 61% possession at Anfield. 53% at Chelsea and lost, 54% at Spurs and lost, 56% at Arsenal and drew.
We have improved as a team and can trouble the big team, compared to the team DM put out. Teams let us have the ball as they know we do not hurt them with the possession we have. We lost to RS and we had 61% possession at Anfield. 53% at Chelsea and lost, 54% at Spurs and lost, 56% at Arsenal and drew.
artetas_biggest_fan
Player Valuation: £6m
It's not effective possession. Teams will gleefully allow us to have the ball in areas that don't hurt. We created nothing in 90 minutes at Anfield, at Spurs we didn't have a shot in the 2nd half, at Chelsea we had Osman's deflected shot in the 2nd half, in 90 minutes at Arsenal we had a breakaway goal and the Ross chance when Vermaelen gifted us the ball. And yet some are wondering why we don't get results.
Neat and tidy aesthetically may look good, but it doesn't get results against better quality opponents. Flooding the midfield and pushing the fullbacks on means being suseptible in the wide areas to the break, and also having the extra man in midfield means one less upfront. Jose said it, we aren't a threat. We play infront of teams not in behind them. In trying to play a more "expansive game" you need the players that make it effective, to split open a defence. We don't have one player who can. Miralles wants to run sideways and shoot, Ross shoots on sight, Pienaar is a poor mans Aimar...we are playing a system/style without the parts. We have have one of the lowest totals for chances created through the middle in the league...and yet we play a system that is meant to create through the middle. We would do..if we had the players to do it (Hazard, Oscar etc.). The three goals against the RS were direct/from crosses, first was a punt thrown into the mixer which fell to Mirallas, and the other two from wide left which Lukaku got on the end of....likewise the only goal in the last league game was from a Baines cross (first assist this season). Baines who was by far our most productive player has suffered in playing the current system.
Neat and tidy aesthetically may look good, but it doesn't get results against better quality opponents. Flooding the midfield and pushing the fullbacks on means being suseptible in the wide areas to the break, and also having the extra man in midfield means one less upfront. Jose said it, we aren't a threat. We play infront of teams not in behind them. In trying to play a more "expansive game" you need the players that make it effective, to split open a defence. We don't have one player who can. Miralles wants to run sideways and shoot, Ross shoots on sight, Pienaar is a poor mans Aimar...we are playing a system/style without the parts. We have have one of the lowest totals for chances created through the middle in the league...and yet we play a system that is meant to create through the middle. We would do..if we had the players to do it (Hazard, Oscar etc.). The three goals against the RS were direct/from crosses, first was a punt thrown into the mixer which fell to Mirallas, and the other two from wide left which Lukaku got on the end of....likewise the only goal in the last league game was from a Baines cross (first assist this season). Baines who was by far our most productive player has suffered in playing the current system.
Sorry, don't get the logic of this.
Newcastle are 5 pts behind us and we have a game in hand and a much better goal difference. They have also lost their best player and their manager is banned for 7 games and is clearly at odds with his chairman.
Spurs are 5 points ahead of us but we have two games in hand and a much better goal difference. Their manager was pretty much sobbing whilst laying into his players after a drubbing by Chelsea and looks like he has lost the support of both his chairman and fans.
Yet you seem to think it is going to take something major for us to overtake spurs but only a run of form for Newcastle to make up a larger amount of points in less games.
Not saying its not going to happen - been an everton supporter too many years - but surely on the facts alone you would have to say its more likely we'll overtake Spurs than Newcastle catch us?
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