When Did The Rot Set In?

[magicjuan]

Heysel. We rolled over and accepted that. The week before we were complimented on our behaviour at the final of a European competition.
From then on we were pushovers off the field.

 

[Dykovski200]

When Gary Lineker left for Barca

 

[magicjuan]

When the club meekly accepted the European ban in 1985 for a crime that had absolutely nothing to do with us whatsoever.

Could you imagine Manchester City accepting a ban from next season's Champions League for something that did not involve them? There would be court cases left, right, and centre.

Instead, Carter and Co caved in and abandoned their duty to protect the club's interests.

Yeah, we won another league 2 years later, but the seeds were planted: not so much of decline, but of a culture that deferred to others, accepted "our lot", and, most importantly, "knew our place."

This.

 

[Bluebonic]

When the club meekly accepted the European ban in 1985 for a crime that had absolutely nothing to do with us whatsoever.

Could you imagine Manchester City accepting a ban from next season's Champions League for something that did not involve them? There would be court cases left, right, and centre.

Instead, Carter and Co caved in and abandoned their duty to protect the club's interests.

Yeah, we won another league 2 years later, but the seeds were planted: not so much of decline, but of a culture that deferred to others, accepted "our lot", and, most importantly, "knew our place."

Is the correct answer! Can you imagine the rs accepting a ban for something we had done? No chance!

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Heysel and when Howard left to go to Spain. The long drawn out demise, that looks like it's going to result in this club losing it's top flight status started in summer 1987.

 

[Khalekan]

First, Heysel

Second, Peter Johnson

Third, Chairman Bill

 

[Cork Evertonian]

….it was a mad house before but I’m convinced the Benitez appointment turned the club rotten.

I’m actually of a view that Marcel Brands departure, much lauded on here was a key factor in sinking the ship. Brands role in the acquisition of players is open to criticism but I’m convinced he was a thoroughly decent man with the skill of a diplomat to keep the disparate parts of the club together. Popular with players and factions on the Board, he worked WITH various Managers until Benitez refused to even talk with him.

Benitez turned the madhouse into a sinking ship, I believe we’d be ok if he’d not been appointed.

Ancelotti leaving was a disaster, and we replaced him with the worst man possible. It's Benitez that started the process, that looks likely to end up in this club losing it's top flight status.

From the excitement of the Ancelotti era (even if it did end up in disappointment), to that horrible few months under that horrible man. Benitez ripped the heart and soul out of the club imo.

June 30th 2021 will forever be remembered as an infamous day for this football club. It was the day we announced to the world, that we totally and utterly lost the plot as a football club.

 

[Tim's tourettes]

When Moyes left

 

[Eggs]

Ancelotti leaving was a disaster, and we replaced him with the worst man possible. It's Benitez that started the process, that looks likely to end up in this club losing it's top flight status.

From the excitement of the Ancelotti era (even if it did end up in disappointment), to that horrible few months under that horrible man. Benitez ripped the heart and soul out of the club imo.

June 30th 2021 will forever be remembered as an infamous day for this football club. It was the day we announced to the world, that we totally and utterly lost the plot as a football club.

…spot on.

 

[StateSideToffee]

Ultimately the root cause is Bill Kenwright. He is the Virus that has led to this Rotting Infection that has killed our club.

The most critical moment, due to the vast quantity of waste, was the Koeman hire and mismanagement of the Lukaku money. This was the incubation stage of the infection. We allowed the Virus to replicate, assemble and mature.

The Brands and Ancelotti partnership could have saved us if it would have been paired with a Bill Kenwright sacking. We were taking the intravenous antibiotics, but never cut out the infected tissue.

My personal moment of dread, where I knew definitively that it would end in relegation; regardless of what occurred moving forward, was the Rafael Benitez hire. We have been in septic shock, with kidney failure, and a low platelet count; dependent on mechanical ventilation without a possibility of recovery ever since.

Whether it occurs this season or not, so long as Bill Kenwright remains, Relegation is inevitable.

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

Schnederlin

 

[OneTrueLegend]

There is shedloads of rot when you look at it. I would say that we have been using money to paper over the cracks for a long time, certainly since Kenwright has been involved in the club. The current board are one of the worst in the league, look at our profit and loss, its horrific, however you cut it, but the FFP is what has finally done for us, if it were not for that, last summer Frank would have been given £100m to spend, we would have kept Richarlison and easily would have been 10 points better off than we are now

 

[LEONARD]

When Gary Lineker left for Barca

Yep , Kendall left for Athletic Bilbao around the same time I think.

A real indicator of our lack of ambition.

 

[The Binman]

When the club meekly accepted the European ban in 1985 for a crime that had absolutely nothing to do with us whatsoever.

Could you imagine Manchester City accepting a ban from next season's Champions League for something that did not involve them? There would be court cases left, right, and centre.

Instead, Carter and Co caved in and abandoned their duty to protect the club's interests.

Yeah, we won another league 2 years later, but the seeds were planted: not so much of decline, but of a culture that deferred to others, accepted "our lot", and, most importantly, "knew our place."

If not this, then when Mr Kendall left us the first time, we were in terminal decline.

How we arrest this from here is anyone’s guess… no money, no good players, questionable management appointments.. the board, oh the board, the hypocrisy and incompetence from them is unreal. Suppose I am answering my own question really, once they’ve gone….

 

[daza_1973]

Yep , Kendall left for Athletic Bilbao around the same time I think.

A real indicator of our lack of ambition.

No, Kendall left a year later after delivering another title.