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I think bringing players in ain't going to change the mentality of the club. The players need a rocket up their rears.
 
basically you're right early on, we missed the boat with the major investment like Chelsea/city got

theres not a chance we are ever competing without it


It was even earlier than that.

Long before Abramovich appeared and even longer before Mansoor fetched up at City, we were part of an elite cartel which was instrumental in the Premier League formation.

At that time only the RS had won more titles than us.....we were level with Arsenal and bizarre as it seems now, as recently as 1992 we had won more league titles than United.

So what happened to us?

The Taylor Report for one thing.

When that report came out the national press carried out a survey and they published a league table of which clubs needed their stadium brought up to scratch the most and how much it was going to approximately cost them.

And dear old Goodison Park sat proudly at the bottom of that table.

Yes, our now antiquated and unfit for purpose home was at that time the most modern and indeed safest ground in the then First Division.

We sat on our laurels as the other major clubs had to embark on major work which would see their stadia soon outstrip ours or, as in the case of Arsenal, move to a new modern ground.

(And even when we did start renovating the ground, they came up with the Meccano Set that is the modern Park End)

The rot was already setting in and this was compounded when Mr. Peter Johnson got his hands on our club.

As Sky came on the scene and joined forces with the nascent Premier League, football was emerging from the cloth capped ghetto it had resided in for a century and was appealing to an altogether more socially mobile and well heeled clientele.

And so we saw the metamorphosis of the football fan into the “customer”.

And these customers were there to be fleeced.

United saw this, the RS saw this, Spurs saw this, Arsenal saw this.

Together with those four clubs, EFC made up what was called at the time “the Big Five”.

They felt the winds of change blowing and acted accordingly to capitalise financially......but not us.

No sir....as the Sky/EPL gravy train was pulling out of Lime Street the hapless Mr. Johnson was stood on the platform waving as the other elite clubs sat in the first class compartment.

And crucially, a second rate yo yo club playing in a dilapidated stadium in west London appointed a well heeled supporter to their board....and the forward thinking Mr. Matthew Harding laid the foundations for the modern Chelsea that Roman inherited a decade later.

Everton got someone like Johnson....Chelsea got someone like Harding.

That is where it all went wrong for us.

And pretty soon we were no longer being bracketed with the elite clubs and this process seems to be suddenly accelerating again as we approach the third decade of the new century.
 
It was even earlier than that.

Long before Abramovich appeared and even longer before Mansoor fetched up at City, we were part of an elite cartel which was instrumental in the Premier League formation.

At that time only the RS had won more titles than us.....we were level with Arsenal and bizarre as it seems now, as recently as 1992 we had won more league titles than United.

So what happened to us?

The Taylor Report for one thing.

When that report came out the national press carried out a survey and they published a league table of which clubs needed their stadium brought up to scratch the most and how much it was going to approximately cost them.

And dear old Goodison Park sat proudly at the bottom of that table.

Yes, our now antiquated and unfit for purpose home was at that time the most modern and indeed safest ground in the then First Division.

We sat on our laurels as the other major clubs had to embark on major work which would see their stadia soon outstrip ours or, as in the case of Arsenal, move to a new modern ground.

(And even when we did start renovating the ground, they came up with the Meccano Set that is the modern Park End)

The rot was already setting in and this was compounded when Mr. Peter Johnson got his hands on our club.

As Sky came on the scene and joined forces with the nascent Premier League, football was emerging from the cloth capped ghetto it had resided in for a century and was appealing to an altogether more socially mobile and well heeled clientele.

And so we saw the metamorphosis of the football fan into the “customer”.

And these customers were there to be fleeced.

United saw this, the RS saw this, Spurs saw this, Arsenal saw this.

Together with those four clubs, EFC made up what was called at the time “the Big Five”.

They felt the winds of change blowing and acted accordingly to capitalise financially......but not us.

No sir....as the Sky/EPL gravy train was pulling out of Lime Street the hapless Mr. Johnson was stood on the platform waving as the other elite clubs sat in the first class compartment.

And crucially, a second rate yo yo club playing in a dilapidated stadium in west London appointed a well heeled supporter to their board....and the forward thinking Mr. Matthew Harding laid the foundations for the modern Chelsea that Roman inherited a decade later.

Everton got someone like Johnson....Chelsea got someone like Harding.

That is where it all went wrong for us.

And pretty soon we were no longer being bracketed with the elite clubs and this process seems to be suddenly accelerating again as we approach the third decade of the new century.

I wish I could argue with that - but I can't!
 

Walter Smith and Moyes had such lack of ambition about them and had such a long time in charge, that any winning mentality was wrung from the club.

Harvey was no Kendall but he at least had a go at things with a depleted squad because they'd gone off to test themselves elsewhere. Walker we can forget about as he was soon binned off. But those 2 dour Scots did more harm than good to the make up of this club. Moyes was initially a breath of fresh air, but he changed after several season into the keep it tight, knife to a gunfight manager who wouldn't dream of challenging the top teams.

Martinez, Koemann and Silva had/ have that to overcome. It's a problem to overcome. Ask anyone under 40 what Everton are - they'll say we are a mid level team who are quite often the best of the rest outside the top teams. Now most professional footballers are under 40, so guess what they think we are? The same. Come here, keep us upper mid table and job is achieved? How do you overcome that mentality?

In fact, getting in Koemann and Fat Scam was just playing to that mentality and preconceived idea of us as a mid table team.

So what's needed? Winners, who would want to win wherever they went. We need the Peter Reids and Andy Grays of this world. It's a lot to ask, but can Davies and Gomes be these players? We want the Big Nevs and Mountfields of this world. I suspect that PIckford has it in him, but what of our defenders - Maybe Digne can take it to the next level. We need an upbeat yet realist manager who can eke the best out of the team and treat it like Mr Kendall did and make our players be a team who can take anyone on and batter them as a team and then party it up on the coach home - I suspect that Jose was like this in his prime, probably Klopp and Solskjaer are too, so they are out there, but I don't think Silva is unfortunately, but maybe he could be if he allowed himself to be more ebullient.

tl,dr: Plenty wrong, no easy answers. I blame us for getting the wrong managers from Scotland for setting in the deep sense of being not good enough.
 
Not a lot to get us to higher than middling rank. A miracle like a multi-billionaire to get us into the top 4. Forget Leicester, it is unlikely to ever happen again. Maybe another Russian or Ukrainian robber/oligarch will get the boot and emigrate here and buy us for his toy. If Donald Trump loses the 2020 election maybe he might fancy us.

We'd never sign Lozano!
 
It was even earlier than that.

Long before Abramovich appeared and even longer before Mansoor fetched up at City, we were part of an elite cartel which was instrumental in the Premier League formation.

At that time only the RS had won more titles than us.....we were level with Arsenal and bizarre as it seems now, as recently as 1992 we had won more league titles than United.

So what happened to us?

The Taylor Report for one thing.

When that report came out the national press carried out a survey and they published a league table of which clubs needed their stadium brought up to scratch the most and how much it was going to approximately cost them.

And dear old Goodison Park sat proudly at the bottom of that table.

Yes, our now antiquated and unfit for purpose home was at that time the most modern and indeed safest ground in the then First Division.

We sat on our laurels as the other major clubs had to embark on major work which would see their stadia soon outstrip ours or, as in the case of Arsenal, move to a new modern ground.

(And even when we did start renovating the ground, they came up with the Meccano Set that is the modern Park End)

The rot was already setting in and this was compounded when Mr. Peter Johnson got his hands on our club.

As Sky came on the scene and joined forces with the nascent Premier League, football was emerging from the cloth capped ghetto it had resided in for a century and was appealing to an altogether more socially mobile and well heeled clientele.

And so we saw the metamorphosis of the football fan into the “customer”.

And these customers were there to be fleeced.

United saw this, the RS saw this, Spurs saw this, Arsenal saw this.

Together with those four clubs, EFC made up what was called at the time “the Big Five”.

They felt the winds of change blowing and acted accordingly to capitalise financially......but not us.

No sir....as the Sky/EPL gravy train was pulling out of Lime Street the hapless Mr. Johnson was stood on the platform waving as the other elite clubs sat in the first class compartment.

And crucially, a second rate yo yo club playing in a dilapidated stadium in west London appointed a well heeled supporter to their board....and the forward thinking Mr. Matthew Harding laid the foundations for the modern Chelsea that Roman inherited a decade later.

Everton got someone like Johnson....Chelsea got someone like Harding.

That is where it all went wrong for us.

And pretty soon we were no longer being bracketed with the elite clubs and this process seems to be suddenly accelerating again as we approach the third decade of the new century.
This and so much more! We really have underachieved in so many areas. We were badly performing by the time of the PL era, no doubt due to the 80's successes being recent enough to prevent huge resentment from the fans over what was a rapid decline from the top to mediocrity. The 95 cup win under Joe Royle also was a sticking plaster on the underlying rot. If only Joe had been backed by the board, who knows what someone instilled with Everton being winners could have achieved.
 

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Ship out the wasters.
 

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