2024/25 Vitalii Mykolenko

[Blue peter]

He goes into the final year of his contract in June. We signed him £17 -£20 mill. For ease lets say 20 mill. His salary is about 50k a week - 3 mill odd a season.

So on the books at the moment he costs about 8 mill pound approx.

With new contract it will be somewhere between £4 - 5 million, as the last year of his contract will just be amortised across the new period presumably 5 years.

So a saving for the club of anywhere from £3-4 mill a year on his cost approx.

Plus protecting the value of any resale. I’m not sure I’d be too confidence of what we would get for him in the summer market in his current form and with only a year left.

 

[bluestevon]

Plus protecting the value of any resale. I’m not sure I’d be too confidence of what we would get for him in the summer market in his current form and with only a year left.

Ballpark figures, we'd likely be able to get around the 12m mark for him, a year left cut that down to 4-5m

 

[Neiler]

A new contract for garner would save us around 1.5-2m

The amortization bill has come right down which is huge as it was a significant cost, if Myko signs Beto is probably are most high cost player. Pound for pound for pound probably are most inefficient cost to.

You can see why we may open to moving him on.

 

[Neiler]

Plus protecting the value of any resale. I’m not sure I’d be too confidence of what we would get for him in the summer market in his current form and with only a year left.

I think its the clever play over all, his book price in the summer will be approx 4 mill mate, so anything above that we book a profit. Napoli bid for him in the summer, im led to believe that was real, so there is a market for the lid.

Overall i think this is a positive mate, also taking it as evidence of being better run with decisions being made on asset management by TFG instead of the pervious creep toward limbo.

 

[Blue peter]

I think what some have to realise that when a player is extended it’s not because they’re great - sometimes it’s financially in that 1, it creates additional headroom from a PSR perspective (up to five years I think), 2 the club will have assessed impact on market value with minimum time remaining on existing contract and will have done their numbers on cost/benefit at what terms they can tie the players down to in the extension.

Sometimes an extension is about protecting the club as much as anything as opposed to first team value. It’s a sport AND a business.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Hasnt had an assist closing in on 100 games now.

Weirdly he is still rated outside of here though, guessing more due to his international form etc

Sympathy cos he's Ukrainian.

 

[blueconverse]

Slow, can't cross, one footed, looks terrified on the ball and looks "ok" when asked to defend (as long as winger sacrifices attacking play to help). There must be a better lb somewhere in world football even on a free

 

[Nymzee]

He’s the only left-back at the club. I don’t mind it. He should realistically become the back-up LB in the Summer. We need 2.

 

[bluestevon]

The amortization bill has come right down which is huge as it was a significant cost, if Myko signs Beto is probably are most high cost player. Pound for pound for pound probably are most inefficient cost to.

You can see why we may open to moving him on.

At the end of the season I think it'll be O'Brien 12.5m as the biggest costs on the books followed by Ndiaye 12m mate, Beto will be around 12 depending on the actual figure paid.

Ndiaye on a 5y deal, both O'Brien and Beyo were 4y

 

[Eggs]

I think what some have to realise that when a player is extended it’s not because they’re great - sometimes it’s financially in that 1, it creates additional headroom from a PSR perspective (up to five years I think), 2 the club will have assessed impact on market value with minimum time remaining on existing contract and will have done their numbers on cost/benefit at what terms they can tie the players down to in the extension.

Sometimes an extension is about protecting the club as much as anything as opposed to first team value. It’s a sport AND a business.

….but we’ll never progress if our ‘business’ model includes extending contracts for poor footballers.

Looking at the bigger picture, there appears no strategy at play here given the mess the contract situation is at the club.

 

[bluestevon]

He’s the only left-back at the club. I don’t mind it. He should realistically become the back-up LB in the Summer. We need 2.

Pretty much this.

We extend them we either sell it retain as backup to a new left back.

What we can't afford to do it is but a new left back k then in a years time be left with no backup and having to buy another by letting him walk on a free.

Whatever funds we do have already have enough holes to fill without adding more.

Same goes for Garners contract also.

 

[Neiler]

At the end of the season I think it'll be O'Brien 12.5m as the biggest costs on the books followed by Ndiaye 12m mate, Beto will be around 12 depending on the actual figure paid.

Ndiaye on a 5y deal, both O'Brien and Beyo were 4y

Beto has a four year deal though mate so his amortization is about 6 + mill = approx every year on the books., which is why we are prob keen on shifting him mate.

O Brien and Ndiaye will have a higher book price alright. But prob less on an annual amortization figure. Not much in it like.

 

[bluestevon]

….but we’ll never progress if our ‘business’ model includes extending contracts for poor footballers.

There appears no strategy at play here given the mess the contract situation is at the club, looking at the bigger picture it’s difficult to determine common sense is at play.

Mate you can't have it both ways, criticising letting so many contracts run out like this season, then criticising it when we do extend contracts.

So far Thelwell has moved on players most if ya thought we had zero chance of re Irving s thing for. Both Godfrey and Maupay we recouped good fees for considering. We recouped solid fees for academy lads in previous years we jet walk for nothing, Canon, Simms, Dobbin.

I know you really don't like Thelwell, but the current stance you take robs any genuine concern you may have of validity as it's a blanket criticism on every level

 

[bluestevon]

Beto has a four year deal though mate so his amortization is about 6 + mill = approx every year on the books., which is why we are prob keen on shifting him mate.

O Brien and Ndiaye will have a higher book price alright. But prob less on an annual amortization figure. Not much in it like.

Yeah I should have clarified that as you're spot on

 

[Aries]

Hasnt had an assist closing in on 100 games now.

Weirdly he is still rated outside of here though, guessing more due to his international form etc

Or because knowledgeable football fans don’t expect marauding runs upfield, crosses in to the box and a hatful of assists from a defensive full back. We had Baines, then Digne, playing the attacking wing back role and clueless supporters expected Mykolenko to do similar. Just a little research is all it takes to know he isn’t, and never has been, that kind of full back. Stop expecting things from players that are not part of their make up. Blame Benitez for recruiting that type of full back or even the DOF for signing it off. The truth is, he’s exactly the type of full back that Dyche loves and why the likes of Patterson on the other side of the pitch doesn’t play. A new manager might well play a totally different system that requires the full backs to cross the half way line and get balls in to the box. If he does, then they’ll have to recruit an attacking left back because that isn’t what Mykolenko is.

One thing you certainly don’t do, is let an international player in his prime years run his contract down and leave for nothing whether you rate him or not. Ok in some instances you don’t have a choice if they’re unwilling to sign (DCL), but if he’s prepared to extend and happy to stay, you offer a new deal and protect your asset. That’s just common sense.